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By Brian Holden, published 19/9/2011Xenophon doesn’t realise that the church is in a fight for survival.
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Posted by runner, Monday, 19 September 2011 11:56:11 AM
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Runner,
The vast majority of biologists accept the theory of evolution. It's possible you don't realise this because you only read the work of creationist biologists, but I assure you that creationist biologists make up a very small minority. Please also note that many of the biologists who accept the theory of evolution are Christian (Jewish, Hindu etc.) and, like the Catholic church, see no conflict between their religious faith and the theory of evolution. From oxforddictionaries.com: church: a particular Christian organization with its own clergy, buildings, and distinctive doctrines Now, what was your point exactly? That the Catholic church is not a particular Christian organisation with its own buildings and distinctive doctrines? Fail. Do you always ignore reality when it gets in the way of your strange beliefs? Posted by The Acolyte Rizla, Monday, 19 September 2011 12:55:46 PM
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Since the comments on this essay are now about the never-ending shouting match between scientism (as distinct from science as an open-ended method of free enquiry) and reductionist exoteric religiosity, why not check out this reference which give a unique comprehensive perspective on this topic;
http://science-and-religion.avatar-adida.org/index.php Posted by Ho Hum, Monday, 19 September 2011 12:56:27 PM
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Raycom, Monday, 19 September 2011 11:39:38 AM
Yes, the current theories about cosmogenesis says the environment would have been sterile at one point, and yes there is much to find out about the start of biological life - abiogenesis (including those microbes that define non-sterile) - but they are separate issues to evolution and changes in the frequencies of alleles, from generation to generation, that defines evolution. Posted by McReal, Monday, 19 September 2011 1:09:54 PM
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Unless you believe evolution has evolved homosexuality I suggest the "off subject" of evolution be left to another thread. If Catholic Priests homosexuality has evolved then they cannot help molestation to fulfil their sexual orientation and are not fully accountable for their behaviour.
However if you believe they were created male with full wilful decision then they are fully accountable for their sexual perversion. Posted by Philo, Monday, 19 September 2011 1:51:02 PM
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...Goodonya PHILLO, that brings the discussion back on track: Further, I wonder aloud (While on the subject of homosexual Priests, which I believe is applicable to the article) Will the Catholic church allow Priests to marry their Homosexual lovers when Julia and Bob Change the marriage laws to include same sex couples? I hasten to add, this is not intended as a facetious or derogatory comment. I am a firm believer that all is possible within the homosexual lobby, and what a "coup d tart" such an event would be to the homosexual lobby if canon law were over-ruled on this issue!
Posted by diver dan, Monday, 19 September 2011 3:25:04 PM
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'I'm not surprised you think damn near every biologist in the world is wrong (and apparently the physicists to boot).'
No just the consensus scientist that know quite well that human biology can only lead to one logical conclusion (design). Thankfully huge numbers who study have to tick the boxes at university and then go on to be doctors etc. Many of them worship their Creator because they have not been blinded by the dogma which makes no sense.
you also write
'But I am very surprised that you regard yourself as a more reliable theological expert than the most learned theologians of the Catholic Church - the largest Christian church in the world,
really! Do yourself a favour and find out what the word church means.