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Why my generation is wrong about gay marriage : Comments
By Blaise Joseph, published 14/9/2011There is nothing wrong with a definition of marriage that discriminates - it is meant to.
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Posted by The Acolyte Rizla, Friday, 16 September 2011 12:49:30 AM
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Noisy Scrub Bird,
Your absolute ignorance of history places you at the bottom of the class. Marriage has never been about the love between two people no matter their sexual preference. You have a mental fixation. If it has been please demonstrate the history; and when gay marriage was lost to heterosexual relationships. Low class intelligence indeed! Posted by Philo, Friday, 16 September 2011 8:15:07 AM
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Irate Goldfish
Because your ignorance of reality is lacking and Law in marriage also includes family law and relationships beside property and will. You demonstrate you are but a student who imagines some self importance. Posted by Philo, Friday, 16 September 2011 8:23:34 AM
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Hear, hear, Philo. Irate Goldfish is clearly lacking when it comes to ignorance of reality, entirely unlike yourself.
Posted by The Acolyte Rizla, Friday, 16 September 2011 8:41:24 AM
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I consider homosexuality to be a mental disorder. I think that any species among animals are dominantly heterosexual, because otherways they would be extinct. In any animal population natural mistakes of the body or behavior appear again and again, such mistakes, which do not serve the survival of that species. These mistakes appear in the body, because genes are not "ideally" varied, and in the behavior, because genetical basics let even animal individuals behave a variety of ways. So even animals have a certain individual freedom to behave this or that way (with their given individual genetical basis). So they might behave even homosexually. They won't have descendants then, but these mistakes (from the point of view of the survival of the species) of the behavior might still accidentally appear again and again in generations of any species.
These mistakes might have a genetical basis (not necessarily, at least noone proved this far it was necessary), and they might also have a genetical basis in the case of humans. But human thinking and behavior is far more complex than that of the animals. So while even in the case of animals it is not proven that genes determine homosexual behavior, in the case of humans it is not even likely that genes would determine it. This sounds logical to me, although it is not only my opinion, but the general view among researchers who study the possible causes of homosexuality. They usually claim that genetical, social and psychological factors might all play some role as background factors. But we don't know the reason in general, and I think it (the relative rates of background factors, the mix of them) might be different in each individual case. It is important to know that some studies appeared in the 1990s in connection wtih possible genetical causes of homosexuality, and they could not prove it still their results were misinterpreted and then widely trumpeted as "your genes do it, you are born that way". This misinformation campaign might be the reason why so many believe this. Posted by Mary Ward was here AMDG, Friday, 16 September 2011 9:04:45 AM
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am practically sure that genes never determine anyone to be homosexual. They might cause some inclination - eg. some disturbance in sexual and therefore in gender identity. Then a distorted sexual behavior might be built upon that basis.
I think this is parallel with alcoholism. Genes might give an inclination, then social background, psychological problems and individual decisions lead someone towards alcoholism. Homosexuality is also parallel with it in its consequences. Not only promiscuity, AIDS and STDs are extremely frequent among male homosexuals, but drog and attempted suicide, too (and not the least alcoholism, too). So it has its negative social and individual consequences just like alcoholism. And it is also curable, like alcoholism (although not quickly and easily, just like that). There exists a gender reorientation reparative therapy with scientifically proven positive results. Healed homosexuals sometimes demonstrate in front of the APA center, because the majority of psychiatrists decided in the 1970s, under political pressure from the homosexual lobby that homosexuality should not be counted to be a mental illness any more and they often add that it is not curable anyway. There are therapists, who still think homosexuality is a mental disorder and they give treatment - the mentioned reparative therapy - to those, who ask them. They have an association, and its homepage is www.narth.com You can find many important scientific information there - such information you cannot find elsewhere, because it is concealed. I also propose this link to find more information about this: http://www.fathersforlife.org/dale/index.html#6 Posted by Mary Ward was here AMDG, Friday, 16 September 2011 9:12:06 AM
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* We allow post-menopausal women to marry. If marriage is about breeding, surely they should be forbidden from doing so?
* The author fails to explain how gay marriage will adversely impact children; she just asserts that it will. Given that homosexuals currently enjoy the same parenting rights as heterosexuals, it is clearly not gay parenting that is the issue at stake, but rather the impact of gay marriage on straight parenting. And I really can't see it having any impact at all. What sort of couple are going to go from being loving and attentive to being neglectful and abusive just because homos get hitched? It doesn't make any kind of sense. This non-argument is of the same ilk as tired old furphies like 'gay marriage will turn straight people gay' and 'gay marriage will diminish the value of straight marriage'. They never do explain how or why the behaviour of autonomous heterosexuals is contingent upon the matrimonial state of homosexuals.