Formersnag, I am not aware of any correlation between 'fatherlessness' and riots!
If we followed your twisted logic, we would surely have had mass riots between warring fatherless youth soon after both World Wars?

There were masses of fatherless children (and many motherless too) after these wars, and yet we never seemed to have great unrest around those war-torn countries did we?
Why not do you think?

It is a well known fact that as long as children have at least one significant adult to emulate, and have unconditional love in their lives, they will have had a great start.
Heterosexual Marriage can't promise that for sure, as you well know.

Suzanonline,

Ah yes,

The thin edge of the wedge, a favourite weapon of mass destruction regularly used by the feminist movement.

Start by saying that fathers aren’t necessary, which then allows single mothers, which then allows single women to have babies by IVF, which then allows homosexual couples to have babies by IVF.

All propped up by the taxpayer, who is normally a heterosexual male.

What happened to the heterosexual male cries out a heterosexual male.

"Not needed except for paying money" says the feminist, with their hand covering their mouth to hide their deceptive smirk.

Philo
"Many effeminite men whom society easily identify as homosexual are happily married family men. However many butch men engage in homosexual acts. Living a biological lie is the lot of those who engage in sex with the same gender."

How can it be a biological lie if it comes 'naturally' to them. You must see in nature there is variation in the traits among the thousands of plant and animal species including humans. Procreation takes a man and a woman but you are judging the standards of sexuality based only on that one premise. Procreation is the ability to make a child, it does not have any relevance to sexuality.

Homosexual men and women can be effeminate or butch, that is not new.

I have a very close male friend who people think might be gay but is in fact totally straight. I am not talking about superficial appearances but deep felt identity and the environment where homosexual men and women do not have access to rights we take for granted

NO pelican homosexual persons want rights that are not available to the heterosexual. Fertile homosexuals men buying babies is not natural, Fertile gay women using taxpayer funded IVF is not natural. Their condition is emotional bonding not biological as most are fertile, and very capable of giving birth to children.

Philo <"Fertile gay women using taxpayer funded IVF is not natural. Their condition is emotional bonding not biological as most are fertile, and very capable of giving birth to children."

Philo, where DO you get these wild statements from?
Not all of the Gay couples will be after IVF anyway.
All some gay women need is a turkey baster if they are really keen.
How do you know that all gay women accessing IVF treatment are fertile?

What business is it of yours as to the reasons they are accessing IVF?
ALL women who access IVF must be capable of giving birth in some way, otherwise why would they be having fertilised ovum implanted into their uterus?

If you are unhappy with your taxes going towards IVF medicare rebates for some of the huge expenses these procedures will incur for gay women, then we can all put in our objections for other rebates going to people we are unhappy about...right?

How about not allowing ANY rebates related to smoking related or alcohol related diseases to smokers or heavy drinkers?

Suzanonline
There are whole worksites that do not allow smoking and require 0.0 blood alcohol content. Mine sites are an example.

Under feminist rule, about 25% of children rarely see their natural father, and now the desire is to increase this % through IVF.

Under feminist rule, not knowing the natural father is considered a good thing.

But perhaps people don't want to live under feminist rule.