Yep, but Robert,
…what if your dog rocked up to the shop and was refused an ice cream; some situations in life should remain unchanged, for example, it is plain and obvious to all but the blind, homosexuals should be refused IVF and marriage on the simple grounds that their lot are unnatural and thus “queer”.

Vanna: your idea of a compromise (to homosexuals)is stupid!

L.B.Loveday:
Yes IVF is intended for normal heterosexual couples. Naturally!

And to other interested parties, the truth is simple, Homosexuality is not normal and should not be treated as if it were.

What a storm in a teacup - "bullying of the worst kind":

Give us a break. Talking about bullying, the government is interfering with our lives - left, right and center, they bully us into submission using their fully-armed police and jails, that is physical violence, and you are claiming that a small noisy group plus someone who gave them 2 minutes of air-time are bullies? what happened to proportions?

If you want to fix things and have justice in the area of marriage, take the government the hell out of this business. Let marriage be a completely personal and private matter, let it not be registered by the government and let the word "marriage" not appear in legislation.

Gee here comes all the hate again. Diver Dan it must be great to have all the answers and to be in a position to pass judgement on the rest of us. Tell us some more truths like how does the sun stay up in the sky, and where does it go at night?
ParttimeParent last time i looked the church had a fair bit of the worlds wealth and the ear of many governements

PS Graham, theres that rammed down our throats thing again!

Bill Muehlenberg Sir,

Apparently you have never heard of the existence of a body of knowledge that goes under the name of BIOLOGY.

One of its branches, GENETICS, would open your mind and do a lot of good to your liver.

It's a bit worrying that a difference of opinion, the exercise of one's freedom of speech, can be slagged as bullying. Freedom of speech MUST include the right to say or write things which are offensive to someone or other. How on earth it can become bullying is beyond me.

Speech or writing which incite violent action, how to make bombs, where to go to attack police, or set upon the property or person of minorities - that's another matter.

But most of us can understand the difference pretty easily.

Joe

loudmouth, agreed, I'm waiting for anyone opposed to gay marriage or gay/lesbian parenting rights to be called a "denier" or similar, that's the usual pattern in these things, to vilify those you disagree with from the left.

Personally I don't see what the big fuss is about, but I do not like the way the loud self obsessed, me me me types attack anyone who disagrees and lambasts them endlessly.

So much for free speech, yes you have a right to ask for gay marriage, parenting, but if people disagree, that's their right and they can express it without the full brunt of the ABC and others crashing down on you surely?

I saw Miranda Divine vilified for stating the obvious, that referring to traditional marriage was a male and a female, as just that, she was declared homophobic.

The usual serial hysterical exaggerators at work again .. whether they want this or that or something else, there appears to be no compromise, it's their way or open warfare.

The media groups pick a side and away we go, then it is warfare and slagging off between on one side ABC/Fairfax and News Limited, sometimes you can pick where they will fall naturally .. there is so much bias on both sides of the media, and it is now a two sided media we have.

The rational News Limited, and the irrational save the world eco overly progressive lefties of the ABC and Fairfax .. that's the common perception.

Imagine if we didn't have News Limited, dear god what a mess we would have with no rational or conservative voice at all.