Philo is absolutely correct there is nothing at all stopping a lesbian SS "defacto" couple from co-habiting with a gay SS "defacto" couple. They could engage in ordinary heterosexual sex for the purpose of procreation, live in the same large house, duplex, unit complex or neighbouring homes.

then there is no need to burden the tax payer with IVF which is not neccessary & the children could grow up with both of their biological parents.

PS, lesbians are a bit like the differences between vegetarians & vegans. a true lesbian would not want penetrative sex with dildos &/or vibrators, if they find male sexual anatomy unattractive.

if they do find male sexual anatomy attractive then the only reasons why they find relationships with males unappealing are psychological. Men like women come in all physical shapes & sizes, as well as all sorts of mental, emotional, psychological types. if they tried a little harder, they might just find a male with a personality &/or character which is compatible with them.

feMANazism was invented by closet communists for the specific purpose spreading fear, loathing & mistrust between men & women in the west, at the height of the cold war.

How many of you fools have fallen for it & are to proud to admit you may have been duped?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U4c7Ldua2o&feature=related

Philo and Formersnag, you guys don't give a tinker's cuss about how much IVF programs cost the public! Lol !

In any case, the few people that can afford to go through the very expensive IVF programs must pay for about 90% of it themselves... many thousands of dollars. The average infertile person must have good private health cover, or have plenty of money coming from somewhere- but not the public purse.

At least get your facts right!

I have much more respect for the God-believers who come straight out and say they are against homosexual people because their holy book tells them it is an abomination, than with those that pretend they give a damn about other people's relationships, or children.

Formersnag, Philo wet al

Duplicitous conspiracy proposals, such as weird cohabitating ones, are unnecessary as are conspiracy theories, such as "feMANazism was invented by closet communists".

Most people try to live life straight-forwardly. Including homosexuals born that way.

suzeonline,
Check, I have made no mention of IVF. Ivf is for infertile couples not for giving birth to fatherless children.

Formersnag,
If Lesbians can accept giving birth to a child I see no reason for objection for them to accept a relationship with a man. Most of the effeminite guys I know make great fathers. Society has identified them and boxed them as gay pre-pubity.

Philo <"Check, I have made no mention of IVF. Ivf is for infertile couples not for giving birth to fatherless children."

What? You have mentioned IVF ad nauseam Philo! I checked!

Check your' biology books Philo. One needs sperm from a father, and an egg from a mother, to make a baby for an IVF program.
ALL IVF children must have a father, biologically.

There are actually very few couples or single parents who have successfully aquired IVF babies.

Why the big fuss?
Does the Bible say anywhere in it's fairy stories:
"Thou shalt not have an IVF baby"?

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12485#215932

suzeonline, don't be ridiculous, #1, i have mentioned christianity & being one before, but being intelligent i also know the secular arguments as well.

#2, i am concerned about all wastage of taxpayers money, as you also well know.

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12485#215934

McReal, don't expect me to believe you have never heard of the PC, Thought Police.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlHFj208qPs&feature=related here is a little video for both you & suzeonline, enjoy, i have mountains more evidence anytime you are unsure about closet communism.