Re the census, I have no issues with it, given the salary, place of work etc is already in the hands of the ATO, if you pay taxes that is. Education is also a matter of public record and as for religion, say what you want or say nothing, I found nothing obtrusive.

Macedonian advocacy: >> Bulgaria and Greece who do not recognise the ethnic Macedonians in their census statistics. This is something that Dr. Andrew Leigh can take up with PM Gillard and Australia's foreign minister.Posted by Macedonian advocacy,<<

Macad, I am not being combative.

Why should Australia take up the internal issues of two other nations that are not humanitarian issues of them self but identity issues primarily to attain status as a lobby group. Perhaps the Greeks and Bulgars want a society that melds rather than a fifth column holding an old identity into further generations.

Why as a resident and perhaps a citizen of Australia do you take up an "identity" campaign outside Australia, the Macedonians want a say in Bulgaria or Greece perhaps and you are their agent here. If you feel so strongly fly over and protest directly, I don't give a tinkers cuss if the Macos are or are not on the Greek and Bulgars census. My advice is to not be a measurable minority, ask a Jew or Jewess if they are comfortable stating they are Jews on a census form or other public document, from experience these folks know that anonymity is best in the long run.

OUG, don't worry about it, I get your shorthand, message gets across, I don't read it like a novel rather like a news bite.

OUG, I posted the last one in the wrong thread I think, it was in response to another poster having a shot at your punctuation...anyway.

UOG - I have one question, and I imagine I am not the only one wondering.

My question is, "huh?"

yes i noticed the same comments
so many times sog...i tried and grayham got tricked into thinking i was trying to short circit the word count[when someone couldnt rebut what im saying..so complained..[and im over getting banned]

so post
the way i post
trying to be as clear as i can
without self incrimating my self..too much

which answers the other questioner

anyhow i wont destract the topic more
explaining things that are self evident in my words
[to those willing to take the time to let the words speak]

and them others
well let them self incriminate..all they like
cause thats what the census has wrote upon it...self confessions
UNDER OATH..and if you lied...well thats an other charge

word *you
used genericly

make sure you get a reciept from the 'collecter'
[who in not cross checking the voter rolls..allows the courts to be too trickey..and the jury process the be corrupted]..[dead voters voting..is more than one fraud]..[just one more fraud]

there is no excuse
for govt agents going bad
but verifies the lies inherant in any system

OMG you do crap on UNG. Can't understand a word you said. Has anyone ever told you that?
I think the Census has missed a great opportunity.
Just what is Australias' make up. In just what direction do ordinary Australians want Australia to go. How ordinary Australians feel about issues affecting Australian values.
Just a short list of things that should have been asked on the Census form;
1. Illegal immigrants. What to do with them.
2. Abortion.
3. Chemical additives in food.
4. GM food crops.
5. Gay marriage.
6. Guns.
7. NBN.
8. Legal age.
9. Standard adult age.
10. Multiculturism.
11. Foreign Aid.
12. Politition must tell the the unadulterated non-PC truth.
13. Polititions must declare all forms of bri. sorry, (donation.)
No matter how small & from whom & the purpose.
14. Standard Superanuation for all Australians.
15. Standard medical & Dental care for Australians.
I can't see this ever happening. If that result is actually down in numbers it might force Political Parties to radically change their thinking.
There's a few more that I'd like to see on that list, but that's enough for now.