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Is global Islamophobia to blame for the Oslo massacres? : Comments
By George Morgan, published 8/8/2011Fascists ironically are using the Internet to lock arms against globalisation and defending the impotent state from its imagined invaders.
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Posted by kactuz, Monday, 8 August 2011 11:26:47 AM
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Culturally Racist, LOL, that's a new one.
The Islamophobia we're confronted with comes from Israel, it's promoted by Zionists (mostly of the Christian variety but certainly by Jews as well) all over the Western world, when we talk about "right wingers" we're talking about pro Israeli groups. From the U.S Tea Party movement, to the EDL, to the Australian Protectionists, Fred Nile and Anders Breivik....all fanatical Zionists. White people just accept "no go zones" as part of life,we've always had them even when this was a 98% White country and we don't need a bunch of Zionists to point them out for us. These inner city Lefties who rave about their "diverse" living spaces came along after Fitzroy and Richmond had been "pacified", the Tres Chic Rob Roy hotel for example was a blood house 25 years ago, you didn't go down Brunswick St after dark unless there were four of five in your group...Gertrude St, forget it, it was dangerous enough down there during the day. Anyone who lives among large numbers of Muslims knows from experience to avoid them when at all possible, it's just common sense. Example, I was at a party on Saturday night and a young White couple were on their way by public transport, they rang the host to see if the local station was safe, if there were any "Lebbos" or "Islanders" who congregated there. Again,it's simple common sense, it's not worth being bashed half to death for the sake of a $20 cab fare. There are no organised "White Islamophobia",or "Racist" political movements, nor "White supremacist" gangs. Just a lot of White people with realistic and sensible attitudes toward non whites which they pass on in the form of safety tips....eg, avoid Broadmeadows train station, don't go into the McKay gardens after dark, don't cut through the Flemington housing estates on foot. Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Monday, 8 August 2011 11:34:39 AM
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halduell:
"Enter Islam. Not only did they sit astride most of the world's then known reserves of oil, but everyone knew, and had known forever, that they were barbarians. The Greeks had fought them. The Romans had fought them." The Barbarians were white skin Europeans. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decline_of_the_Roman_Empire Posted by Philip Tang, Monday, 8 August 2011 11:53:55 AM
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Philip Tang
Europeans were surely barbarians, and at no time more so than during the Crusades. Read Steven Runciman's three volume history of the Crusades to dispel any lingering doubt on that score. And the most recent invasion of European barbarians into the Middle East? That would be a dead heat between the Ashkenazi Zionists' state of Israel (Europe's guilty conscience), and the Bush/Blair War on (of) Terror. Posted by halduell, Monday, 8 August 2011 2:33:06 PM
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Halduell.
Zionism has been sold out by it's Anglo Elite sponsors,watch what happens over the next few years. The Norway massacre is in part a reaction to this betrayal. As I keep saying, there is no "Racist Right", it doesn't exist, there are only degrees of liberalism reacting in different ways to Israel. Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Monday, 8 August 2011 3:15:07 PM
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"Fascists ironically are using the Internet to lock arms against globalisation and defending the impotent state from its imagined invaders."
What is it with Humanities types and leftists in general who love to smear their enemies as "fascists" while at the same time trying to impose their view of the world on others. While Conservatives make no bones about wanting others to conform to their view, leftist and Humanities types love pushing their logic through the back door. Think as I do or you're a "fascist". Being critical of Islam may be fascist in a sense, but I deserve the right to disagree with a religion that is based on a 2,000 year old metaphysics and a 1,400 year old morality. As a Humanities lecturer, Mr. Moragn should be well aware of the outmoded metaphysics Islam is based upon, yet we must be tolerant of it! To be tolerant of it is to castrate the intellect and ignore the plethora of critiques that have refuted its ontological base. Max Stirner, Friedrich Nietzsche, and Sigmund Freud, to name a few, have thoroughly refuted the metaphysics on which it rests. Predicated on the now refuted mind/body split, the replacement of the father figure by a higher, transcendental authority, a sheet anchor for the world weary, and the imagined superiority as a servant of the divine. As for its morality, divine command law is completely contrary to the principles of liberal democracy. While liberal theory wants us to respect the rights of the individual, Islam does not ground its laws in the rights of the individual. It acts according to a "higher" law, and not one's own or the state's. One has to wonder who the real "fascist" is here. Posted by Aristocrat, Monday, 8 August 2011 3:27:04 PM
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That just about says it all. Islamic values are not those of the West. Muslims do not accept equality, human rights, freedom of speech, religion, or separation of religion and state. Yes, there are some good Muslims, but in numbers they bring hate and violence with them, causing sorrow, turmoil and death. It is just a matter of time.
Ulis. Take a look at Islamic states. Check out the human rights situation in the 50+ IOC Islamic States - and then tell me it is just a coincidence. Tell me that Islam has nothing to do with the sad state of those countries or the lack of freedoms and human rights.
Or simply tell me why you think the West can trust or live in peace with a group of people that says "Praise be upon him" after the name of a man that attacked, plundered, killed, tortured, enslaved men women and children, and raped captives. These things are easily found in Islam's own traditions (hadith) even if Muslims usually ignore them. When confronted about them, Muslims will not condemn Mohammad for his evil deeds. Oh yes, according to the Quran, Mohammad is a great moral example for Muslims. Figure out if you can what this means.
No, we do not shoot people, Muslims or infidels. That is wrong. The Norway massacre was the work of a evil man (not insane). Let us not make excuses for evil, no matter what form it takes or who does it.
The article is just another kumbayah song that ignores reality. Even a short look at history shows that one evil does not justify another or that if group A fights evil group B, that does not mean group A is any better that B. Standing up for our freedoms and human rights against a barbaric 7th century cult or even a repressive 21st century government is an act of courage, not a cute, meaningless phobia.