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By Graham Young, published 11/7/2011The Greens are here to stay, but it may be more in opposition than influence.
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Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 12:34:29 PM
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The following website may be of interest:
http://newmatilda.com/2011/07/11/carbon-tax-we-had-have BTW: Did anyone watch "Q and A" last night? At long last we have a leader - we can all be proud of. Onya Julia! Posted by Lexi, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 3:59:18 PM
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Pericles,
Greens policies can be found here: http://greens.org.au/policies Very specific and well articulated and covering a broad range of issues. Sure, they're not costed. Either are the Coalition's in reality. (Here, for balance: http://www.liberal.org.au/ ) The one thing I will point out, is that the Green policies haven't been changing direction with every poll that comes out, to the extent that the major parties' have. And at least the ALP are sticking to their guns on the battling climate change. Abbott wanted an ETS, then didn't believe in climate change, and now wants to axe thousands of public service jobs to fund tax cuts and a vague and unarticulated direct action policy. Posted by TrashcanMan, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 7:46:44 PM
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Lexi, I totally agree. Gillard's performance was well above expectation and I am sure she won over support from many who doubted her ability to lead and govern.
"CSIRO or Alan Jones?" Perfectly sums up the AGW debate for me. Posted by TrashcanMan, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 7:49:07 PM
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It is time for me to fall on my sword.
Indeed it may well take self disembowelment in the Japanese style to undo my wrongs. In a thread that see,s charges of bias used against its Author, hardly on first sight, or even considered review in the nature of any day in the Murdock press. I, bit choke up here, let fly, with,dreadful person that I am, my truly held opinions. A practice the Greens, rightfully, insist, only some should have. Here and in other threads I have magnified my crimes by asking totally offensive questions. You will see here and in general comments those questions met with verbal back turning and no answers,as indeed they deserved. In begging for forgiveness I offer for the last time these questions/statements Is it true more Australians dislike/distrust the greens than vote for them Is it true Labor is finding voters leave to vote green and conservative because they are unhappy with Labor/green interactions Was the single green in the lower house elected on Liberal preferences. How many marginal senators won via preferences. Supplementary, if preferences did not exist would the greens. While watching, hoping, the Murdock thing grow, I here by admit to being rude enought t hold firmly to ,my opinions even rudely insisting greens too are accountable. Sorry but answers would be good. Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 7:29:03 AM
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Previously I asked:
>> Those who are in favour of a two-party system, could you please give justification for such restrictions of the democratic process? << No one willing to attempt to justify the stranglehold a 2 party system has on the democratic process? That progressive parties and independents are needed to provide a more democratic system? No takers? Just denigrate the Greens for working towards a cooperative, sustainable technology future. Australia the lucky country, we're gonna need it. Posted by Ammonite, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 8:27:16 AM
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One that hurts me, but can not be rebutted unless I lie.
GY said greens will still be around, but on the opposition benches.
That sadly is true, I am sure the mentioned 6% are not true greens, but protesters against Labor occupying the only ground voters will except from a party wishing to govern.
I contend and believe, fully honestly totally, that for every Labor voter going green in protest,every single one.
One votes liberal in shame and discust at the perception Labor is bending to the greens.
I know I have lost Friends,some I valued, but my thoughts ideas wishes will not be pushed.
Ammonite ,not sure if you have lived here under other names, but on my recent conversations with you I felt it time wasting.
Yes the greens can say our current system is more democratic, point to England following us, maybe.
Spend the time, some of you forming the Crows council at least answer my often asked question.
IS it TRUE more Australians dislike greens than vote for them.
Did your lower house man get in on Liberal preferences.
What power will the greens have AFTER they have driven the ALP out of government.
A double election of both houses much more than likely [ in my view wanted] will give you no more than 4 Senate seats.
The constant near hysterical defense by greens against honest opinions is an attempt to stop debate about a party more Australians fear than we once feared the idiot one nation.