Col while I throw my rocks in the same directions it will never be in support of you or your world that stopped existing about the time I was born.
I take offense at the theft here of my birth right and life long actions.
It was LABOR/UNIONS that made those gains.
IN measures depth of greens failure to understand, IT IS TRUE working class people are more likely in Numbers to vote conservative than green.
Hold your breath, stamp your feet, but it is also true, so very true.
More Australians dislike even hate the middle class Socialists, the lost greens.
I highlight, Labor is at its lowest, votes are going? not green but LIBERAL.
Greens threaten every gain they cheekily claim by putting them selves and Labor in opposition.

Having exiled myself from general comments section for a while I came here.
Not to insult the greens, I am no saint, I in my history in OLO been guilty of that, and falling for baits over reacting.
I felt, some maybe most,think I am being fragile. Greens want to be free from views such as mine.
We roll around down there insulting and being insulted.
But for me the final straw was in my view, being warned if I stopped saying those things I would be spoken to again.
Sorry but no way will I be censored.
Right now, remember this, Australia faces massive fast moving change Bob Brown, no mate of mine will be behind it.
AN inquiry into our press/well Murdock will do.
So very many who post here get the infamous crap in Gillards words not truth and post rubbish, we all can do better
After Murdock's fall I at least can only be hung for having my own views, no the ones he makes for some.
We could talk about the greens for years, without needing to lie or for that matter dream.
Labor, gee Gillard is looking good, is on the way back.
My questions to greens here and down below never got answers That to me says we have reason to doubt be concerned just how shallow are these folk.
EVERY charge EVER put about my party saw me rebut them.
Silence? do not pull the wool over your own eyes, this country has to look at every single greens policy and find out just what they mean and what are the impacts.
Remember Labor has never been worse Liberals, not greens prosper.
Divide and Conquer, has meaning
I give up looking for answers but note it is a funny party claiming to seek the middle ground is afraid to answer questions.

Once again the 'stern' Col Rouge -despite his chosen moniker- demonstrates his remarkable inability to view any political discussion in any other terms than absolute black or pure white.
I wrote of 'radicals', Col, not socialists. I would suggest one of the most radical politicians on America's Capitol Hill would be Ron Paul, and the best of luck to him in auditing their Fed.
As a dedicated member of the Austrian School, I doubt even Col Rouge would call him a socialist.
Once again (for the umpteenth time) I am not, nor have I ever been a socialist. As a small businessman, I quite like capitalism. It's corporatism/post capitalism I'm afraid of.
Also for the record, I have never voted Green, largely because of their socialistic tendencies (and partially because I find some of their conservation policies a little naïve. In this I'm inclined to agree with a lot of Pericles' views -but not all).
Come to think of it, I can only recall voting Labor once (for Gough. Just once. Don't regret voting for him, don't regret voting against him.)
Despite never having voted for the Greens, I still believe they have an important role to play in political discourse, and if they were in danger of extinction I probably would vote for them.
Fortunately, it appears I won't have to.
Next time I vote, I think I'll go with Antiseptic (and you can take that either way).
I'm going to vote for the candidate who stands for their constituents, rather than their own nest.
The one who values honesty, integrity and loyalty to the people who pay their wages, rather than their own ego and ambition.
And until they show up, I will proudly put a big fat zero against all the other candidates' names.

Bolshevik means "one of the majority", it was a term coined after the split in the SDLP.
In terms of a meaningful comparison the Greens would fit very neatly under the "Menshevik" label, the smaller more Liberal minority faction.
The German National Socialists had "Green" policies but they still went the way of all socialist governments, militarisim, police state, dictatorship.
I'm not seeing anything that even alludes to those ideas in the Australian Greens.
They're far too Liberal and bourgeois to be "Bolsheviks" and they tolerate too many undisciplined idiots and troublemakers in their ranks to compare to the NSDAP.

Jay of Melbourne "I'm not seeing anything that even alludes to those ideas in the Australian Greens.
They're far too Liberal and bourgeois to be "Bolsheviks" and they tolerate too many undisciplined idiots and troublemakers in their ranks to compare to the NSDAP."

Give them time

the "Power" will soon go to their heads and then it is

"Re-Education Camps" for car drivers to be taught "allowed Green thinking"

Actually Jay, I disagree with you. The Trostyites and fellow travellers infiltrated the Enviroment Movement decades ago and have been nudging it along ever since.

They have recruited enough "Useful Idiots" to present the front-of-house stuff and now sit in the background determining strategy.

Simply because USSR failed does not diminish the zeal of power-crazed obsessive compulsives of the left to "prove" the superiority of their despotic views.

Just as Gizzards is imposing a Carbon Tax, without taking it to the Electorate, so too Greens will abuse any power they get, perverting it to impose their so called "collective values" on real people

Hmmm, Col,
I've heard first hand, eyewitness accounts of Trotskyites, Maoists and other Lunatics being frog marched out of Greens meetings.
...but then I've gone to the polling place on election day and seen those types handing out Greens how to vote cards.
The NSW Labor party is talking about doing background and psychological tests on candidates and senior post holders, the Greens will have to do the same to be taken seriously.
You can't let nutters or provocateurs into an organisation for a start, they have to be shown the door immediately and their names and description circulated to all branches. It's also a fact that you do get bona fide psychopaths gravitating to groups and trying to take over or just mess with people's heads, this happens at every level of society, as anyone who's been involved in a club or community association knows.
We really have to move past hysterical Anti Communism and it's opposite, hysterical Anti Racism.
Bringing up things like CHEKA and the Holodomor doesn't lead to a good place.
I appreciate the fact that the search for truth necessarily leads one into the dark places and that the truth seeker needs to undergo trials which would make the average person recoil in horror but what can you tell people about the journey?
A comrade sent me this the other day:
'I went into the dark heart of the beast and coming back the light shone brighter still' 'A successful voyager into places unknown returns with incredible tales, treasures of all kinds, and most importantly a map; the greater part of which is not marked'