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Measuring Australia's response to international climate change legislation : Comments

By Jo Coghlan, published 5/7/2011

Most countries in the Anglosphere are moving on pricing carbon, whatever their electors think.

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God bless the true believers.

Jo, you need to understand that once the electorate becomes sensitized to proselytizing, there is no going back. The declining support is due to the exclusion of any other perspective, exaggeration, failed predictions, misinterpretation, abuse and contrary evidence.

In the absence of any improvement in what you have to offer, you resort to that which got you into trouble in the first place, bull dust.

We are fortunate in Australia to have people like you to continue the destructive work on the warming orthodoxy.

I note that Godo posted a response to the wrong thread, and then it occurred to me that it actually made more sense here. It’s sort of, like your article really. “What time is it? It’s a long blue one with a Zipper down the side”

Congratulations and keep up the good work.
Posted by spindoc, Tuesday, 5 July 2011 9:29:53 AM
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42% of people WANT to pay more tax for no good reason. Brainwashing does work!
Posted by Atman, Tuesday, 5 July 2011 10:33:31 AM
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The article cites quite dated opinion polls, such as the 2008 poll which led the story. That was before the GFC, and the noticeable public swing away from green sentiment. Although this is more marked in the US (where the economy is in worse shape) than it is here, none the less more recent polls show that the public in general are switching off green alarmism.

Then there are vital omissions from the international references. A few years back, for example, Canada was notable for simply declaring that it would not meet its obligations under the Kyoto protocol. And the article does not mention the US at all. The biggest of the anglo emitters does not rate a mention.

Not impressive.
Posted by Curmudgeon, Tuesday, 5 July 2011 11:26:17 AM
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Jeeez It's so cold today.

I'll have to turn the air con on to warm up!
Posted by imajulianutter, Tuesday, 5 July 2011 12:16:17 PM
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Chris, agreed, cherry picking data though seems to be a tactic of the alarmist camp.

That's interesting what you say about Alberta, so here we have a system that keeps the tax within their boundaries and they appear not to trust others with their money .. so how does this work, are they just reducing GHGs in Alberta?

"province belives that a local carbon tax keeps the money in the province and a national system and/or a trading system will see revenue lost."

Our system is going to give 10% to the UN, and the rest sprayed around all over, but I'll bet it is used to balance the federal budget in 2013. We'll be lucky to ever find out where all the money goes or what it will be used for.

We'll eventually see all our money lost I reckon .. more waste by the ALP, but I imagine another folly will arise to distract us that the ALP can tax and waste on..

I distrust the government on this and am coming to distrust climate scientists as well .. sadly, they appear to have gone over to the dark side, and scientists who band together to stop free speech, well.
Posted by rpg, Tuesday, 5 July 2011 12:46:09 PM
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Why do Julia and co feel the need to perpetually lie to us about the "Carbon Tax", now renamed (by Penny Wong last night on Q&A) as "Pollution Tax".

Ignoring for the moment that total lack of any real discussion about the real issues relating to climate change and its causes, it is patently obvious that the "Carbon Tax" is not a "Carbon Tax" at all, but rather a "Carbon Dioxide Tax". Why the lie? Probably in a naive and stupid attempt to con the Australian people that the real issue is soot and related emissions, which have been dealt with here in Australia for many years now.

They say that Carbon Dioxide is a pollutant. Not so. It is NOT a registered pollutant. And nor is Carbon. Why lie about it?

Do they think that we are stupid? They need to realise that these days that can't rely on the ABC and Fairfax press being the only source of information. Many of us are accessing varied sources of information across the globe, and can figure it out for ourselves.
Posted by Herbert Stencil, Tuesday, 5 July 2011 1:50:46 PM
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