Col Rouge

Apparently I ‘flamed’ you in my deleted comment. Sorry.

I agree, there should be much debate about the carbon tax, and as an accountant your input would be of value.

However, your assertions on ‘climate science’ are just that, assertions.

Sure, have an opinion and express it – here or anywhere else. You could even write a book like Bob Carter.

But just because you/he/me have an opinion and express it, doesn’t mean they are right.

In a previous post, it appears you think it's all a communist plot by the:

blatant lying, arrogant, adulterous, narcissist, drunk, stealing, abominable, stupid, mass murderering, disgusting, pointless and despicable child haters.

It's not for me to say you are 'flaming' - suffice to say I think you are wrong, in my humble opinion.

It seems that Red Neck seriously believes that global climate science is a conspiracy. He says: "- the scope and breadth of the demands of 'warmists' are not limited to 'science' but are intended to subjegate every aspect of everyone elses lives under a reign of oppressive and pointless taxation and regressive economic levelling"

This is really an extrordinary claim, which he then seems to extend to all science, inclusive. I hope he never gets sick, or flies in an aeroplane, or even eats a meal ...

As he says, it's not up to him to prove the scientists wrong. But if he is going to make such serious accusations against the research community, then he should at the very least provide some evidence to back his assertions. Otherwise, we are justified in simply dismissing his opinions as ill-informed rant. (He should perhaps also provide some evidence that he is in fact familiar with the science. Sounding off about Nostradamus, Jim Jones or Al Gore is not very convincing.)

bonmot .. "Anger is quite a motivator, isn't it bonmot?"

This is a very suspicious event, the university says it has had death threats, won't release them or tell the AFP .. why not?

They have a duty to protect, to go to the AFP immediately.

I suspect the death threats are like the one to the independent Windsor, not a death threat at all, except in his mind.

This could be the work of agent provocateurs, after the all, the left is well known for its threats and violence.

Scientists are becoming the new drama queens aren't they ..

so finally, yes bonmot, your anger seems to send you off on tangents, and this supposed death threat seems not to be such, and who knows, it may not even be related to climate at all .. that's just the usual alarmist hysteria in "normal" mode.

bonmot, as usual does not answer, avoids and conflates, when not attacking, has no substance.

Bonmot, I'm sure believes water divining with a forked stick, or two wires, since skepticism of such would be .. denial?

Bonmot, you flamed me too .. so where's my apology? (still angry huh?)

So anybody who accepts the official version of the truth is to now be collectively called a "warmist".

Well here's a field guide to the alternatives -

Flat-out deniers: Argue that the world is no warmer today than it was during the Medieval Warm Period of 950 to 1250; some accuse scientists of conspiring to put their instruments in hotter areas to skew the readings.

Global-cooling believers: Claim that the planet is actually getting colder —and point to increasing winter snow as evidence.

Mathletes: Live to find faulty math in climate change studies.

Sunspotters: Believe the planet is getting hotter, but blame natural phenomena like water vapor, volcanoes, solar flares, clouds, and cosmic rays—not people. Proposed solution? Install A/C or find a nice shade tree.

Lukewarmers: Acknowledge that the Earth is getting hotter, but it's not a big deal. Others argue that it might even be a good thing.

The Rapture-ready: Contend that the planet cannot be warming because it was not foretold in the Bible—and even if it were warming, good news! The end times are upon us.

Pick one and get in line.

It's one thing to be challenged but at least the denialists should get their own stories straight.

If it matters to all you conspiratorialists and for the record, it was actually the denialists who changed the term from "Global Warming" into "Climate Change", just as the same lobbyists behind them changed "Second-hand Smoke" into "Passive Smoking".

Talking of the sanctity of IPCC encyclicals and the irrationality of anyone who might question them. Here’s a little something I came across while looking for a book. The merits of the book are irrelevant. Consider the experiences of the reviewer —sound familiar?

"By
Jerald Tennant
This review is from: The Biology Of Belief: Unleashing The Power Of Consciousness, Matter And Miracles (Hardcover)
I am a physician who turns 65 this week. My career was and is punctuated by the harassment one receives when one is challenging medical dogma. When I began doing outpatient surgery, I was called before the Executive Committee of my hospital to explain the "circus" I was involving myself in. When I began to put intraocualar lenses in eyes after cataract surgery, I was fired from my position as Chief of Ophthalmic Plastic Surgery because "Anyone so stupid as to put lenses in eyes has no business teaching residents". When I did the research for the laser used in Lasik, I was told it was unbelievable that anyone could be so stupid as to make incisions across the visual axis of a good eye. Now it is almost malpractice not to do those things!How time changes things.

There are those who are constantly willing to re-examine what they think they know. There are others who cannot deal with the idea that what they were taught might be wrong. One can clearly see that in the reviews above.

Dr. Lipton has clearly challenged what we thought we knew and opened Pandora's box. Scientists have long stated, "If you can't prove it, it doesn't exist." That means that we relegate our belief system to the quality of our measuring devices. Since we couldn't measure things at biological speeds until we got Pentium class computers, we haven't been able to measure biological electronic function for very many years. Lipton has helped refocus us away from the false belief that the body is Newtonian and reductionistic to the reality that the body works at the atomic level where Newton's laws fail and electromagnetic energy rules."

http://www.amazon.com/Biology-Belief-Unleashing-Consciousness-Miracles/dp/0975991477