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Don’t listen to shock jocks on carbon : Comments
By Bob Carter, published 1/6/2011Climate change is like motherhood: of course it’s real, and whoever would doubt it?
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Posted by Peter Mac, Saturday, 4 June 2011 12:13:08 PM
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Col Rouge, your own post betrays your failure to understand how science operates. You say "All the theory of Climate Science is focused on what will happen several decades out." This is simply wrong. The satellites, balloons, buoys and all the other instruments are measuring what is happening now, today. From this they are able to deduce trends for the future, which vary according to which path we as a nation, and as a global population, follow.
If you can as you say find fault with the theory of climate change, please let the rest of us know. It will be good news (if your views are backed by observation and evidence). Your views on taxation are not at issue. And Hasbeen, you seem to have missed the point about stomach ulcers. The "stress" theory was overturned, by the Helicobacter pylori theory, through the normal process of scientific research (and one brave researcher). It was an unusually dramatic case, but it was not about bunches of dills. It was about good science. Posted by nicco, Saturday, 4 June 2011 2:11:26 PM
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Nicco “The satellites, balloons, buoys and all the other instruments are measuring what is happening now,”
Yes, so you would claim and the speculatively error prone readings are then projected to imply dire consequences for the future As for my post It supports (and does not betray) my sovereign right to hold an opinion. As several people have already pointed out, it is not up to me to “prove” scientists wrong about their predictions… that is impossible It is up to scientists to justify their predictions , which they have repeastedly failed to do. I recall the nuclear winter of the 1970s and the hiockey stick graphs and several other dire predictions which have either been disproven or exposed as fraudulent. Doubtless, my ancestors heard all about Malthus’s predictions and rolled their eyes in despair too I recall different groups of people from Jim Jones, the Millerites, Nostradamus and Heavens Gate - full of people predicting the end of the earth… there is currently one bunch of loons running around telling us all it is all over in December 2012…. Guess what, I don’t listen to them any more than I listen to Al Gore or any of the other global warming conspirators. And being an accountant, with some knowledge of economics and tax, I certainly defend my right to express my opinion on the dire consequences of pushing Australia into a pointless economic depression for the sake of a greenies demand that we all turn back the clock and return to 17th century peasant lifestyle, which is what the real agenda is behind the excuse of Global warming Remember Lenin said “A revolution is impossible without a revolutionary situation” With Collectivists having failed in their attempts to impose collectivism over the free west, culminating in the collapse of the USSR, Global Warming has become merely another “revolutionary situation” for the insidious forces of the left to rally around and garner the support of the gullible or, as Lenin called them, "useful idiots Posted by Col Rouge, Saturday, 4 June 2011 3:20:43 PM
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Nicco regarding "It was an unusually dramatic case, but it was not about bunches of dills. It was about good science."
that would be the same "good science" which also brought us leaded petrol - introduced to stop engine knock Thalydomide - to help pregnant women overcome morning sickness DDT - used to kill off deadly mosquitoes as well as CO2 elimination the big baddy in the atmosphere - the elimination of which will supposedly "Save the Planet" from mankind I feel, the credentials and credibilities of science and "scientific experts" are best left in the laboratory and at the grant applications board table, well away from national and international politics and I do advise you - the scope and breadth of the demands of "warmists" are not limited to "science" but are intended to subjegate every aspect of everyone elses lives under a reign of oppressive and pointless taxation and regressive economic levelling Posted by Col Rouge, Saturday, 4 June 2011 3:33:52 PM
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rpg asks “Anger is quite a motivator, isn't it bonmot?”
Yes, it is! http://tinyurl.com/ANGER-rpg The reason why anonymity is safer. Posted by bonmot, Saturday, 4 June 2011 3:49:20 PM
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I asked Arjay what "hide the decline" means. It seems he has answered before: >> They had to hide the decline in rising temps since 1995 even with expodential increases in CO2 << http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=10060#162281 Follow that thread rpg, it will give you the answers you don’t want to hear. Despite being shown wrong, Arjay still trots out the same old twisted and distorted memes - much like other OLO conspiracy theorists. As for verballing: http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=11150#187274 Please show me where I claimed “the world is going to hell”. Or is this another distortion of the truth? Posted by bonmot, Saturday, 4 June 2011 3:57:31 PM
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You have hit the nail right on the head Col!