Dug,

"Sadly I cannot say the same for christians they seem pretty unwilling to stand up for the rights freedoms and beliefs of anyone but themselves."

I don't know where you "Dug"-up this bit of bile. Can only imagine you just woke up in a bright new world with no idea of how this idyllic setting came into being. Bit of history ol' son, your present freedoms didn't magically materialise without quite a bit of coaxing from a lot of honest decent people, and, guess what, they weren't Muslim or Hindu or Buddhist, OR Securlarists! Your secular freedoms are a natural progression from a sound foundational past, Not in spite of it.

Next your going to blame the Greeks I suppose for not bringing democracy, philosophy and ethics to the West so much sooner, and thereby saving the old UK from having to go through the "dark ages" before having an "enlightened" age thrust upon them. Or are you going to blame Islam for inventing algebra, because it just complicates you otherwise blissful state.

Ingrate just doesn't really cover it adequately.

"Do unto others as you would would have others do unto you" AKA "The Golden Rule":

"Overview:

The Ethic of Reciprocity -- often called the Golden Rule in Christianity -- simply states that we are to treat other people as we would wish to be treated ourselves.

Almost all organized religions have such an ethic. It is normally intended to apply to the entire human race. Unfortunately, it is too often applied by some people only to fellow believers."

http://www.religioustolerance.org/reciproc2.htm

Many religions, eons before Jesus preached, held to the ethic of reciprocity, along with many humane values that assist people to get along with each other, Christianity simply repeated values that have been held by many different cultures.

Claiming Christianity as the font for all good and decency is quite simply a lie.

Back on topic the issue of SRI is another attempt by the Christian Faith to put its ideology ahead of the beliefs of others:

"Is SRI Representative of our Multicultural Community?

Quite clearly, the answer is no. In a 23 page legal opinion commissioned by the Victorian Humanist Society in 2010, Holding Redlich has concluded that “there appears to be a reasonable argument that the SRI being provided for in Government schools infringes both the Equal Opportunity Act 1995 and the Victorian Charter of Human Rights and Responsibilities Act 2006″."

http://religionsinschool.com/sri-the-facts/

I invite all who are interested in open and fair debate to read the links from which I have provided quotes.

Thank you.

Poirot, my "beef" is that your perception of "hilarious" is markedly similar to my perception of September in the US in the early '90s when the freshest batch of college kids first got access to this new fangled internet thingy. Funnily enough, those kids also liked defending stupidity from sock puppet accounts, or tag teaming each other, under the impression they were fresh, clever and new. It was *very* exciting, more so with every repetition. It is threads like these that Australia really does stand up and earn its moniker of being the "arse end of the planet" - that 2 decades later you can still find it amusing.

As for TRUTHNOW78, mythology requires no evidence. Both islam and xtianity are cults of the victim. They lose substance without a victim to persecute, be it the stoning/burning of heretics or immodest women, or when they have no victims, to transorm themselves into the victim role and support it with fables of imaginary persecution or the vainglory of a stupid martyrs death.

These persecution fantasies are essential in this fight to infiltrate and poison schools. It is the petrol in the tank. Without it, they would have bugger all to work with.

Now that really is hyperbowl to call the Crusades and The Inquisition 'general coaxing'.

Thanks for the kind words Poirot.

'adores nothing more than puncturing the three p's - pretension, pomposity and piousness.'

I always thought PPPs were the public private partnerships I despise so:-)

I think I'm being socially excluded:-) Where's Tristan Ewins! So much violence. So much violence.

All this talking about freedom of religion makes me want freedom *from* religion...

"In secular countries like England, the US, and Canada, Christians are already being persecuted for their beliefs (including fines and prison)."

Posted by TRUTHNOW78, Friday, 6 May 2011 1:41:54 PM

The few cases in England have been where they have broken discrimination laws, or done things like worn dangerous jewellery (chains) with crucifixes on them, but falsely claimed they were being persecuted for the crucifix when they were really ewaring a dangerous chain.

"Nature hates a vacuum" - nature doesn't hate.

Secularism allows for equal space for all belief systems, so none dominate, unlike the SRI and ohter special pleading scenarios.

Beezlebubba,

Sorry about that. I should have realised how transparent were our antics.
Houellebecq and I are notorious tag-teaming sock-puppet college types and it's time we grew up. (It's not easy living at the "arse end of the planet"- so perhaps, you'll cut us a bit of slack)

Btw, i agree with the sentiments you expressed to TRUTHNOW78 - I have an issue with indoctrination programs.