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Nanny state threatens nanny with naughty corner : Comments

By Mark Christensen, published 15/4/2011

Bureaucratising punishment of children in childcare centres will destroy trust, autonomy and damage the system.

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Why do we need daycare centres anyway?

Rows of little beds for the children to sleep upon, rows of little tables for them to eat off, rows of little toy boxes to keep them occupied.

And if one doesn’t like this type of internment, then send them to the “naughty corner”.

Possibly the most pitiful daycare center I have seen was a council run daycare centre with rows of little toilets. Both the boys and girls shared the same toilets with no walls or doors on the toilets, and no privacy at all.

Daycare centres would have to be the pinnacle of feminism, but daycare centres are also one of the most dehumanising and tragic places in our feminist society.
Posted by vanna, Friday, 15 April 2011 4:18:54 PM
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Mark:“We need to trust, at least in the first instance, the professional judgement of childcare staff, given parents and government representatives can never properly appreciate the circumstances in real time.”
MarkII:“Meanwhile, parents seem content to abrogate their responsibilities by hanging their hat on a government star rating instead of tuning in and assessing if their kids are getting what they deserve.”

So do we trust the professional judgment of childcare staff or be responsible and tune in?

MarkIII“In a political system devoid of leadership, this will only happen if and when people demand government resume its rightful supporting role. Anything less, and things will continue to get worse, not better.”

Government should support and not govern?

Vanna kids don’t want any privacy, they’re intrusive little busy bodies at the best of times and nothing makes them happier than going potty as a crowd.

But I’m with you Vanna, scrap daycare altogether.
Posted by Jewely, Friday, 15 April 2011 5:21:40 PM
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Mark Christensen,

Thanks for the light cast on the essential, fundamental function of society; the rising of children.

You tell us, if I got the gist of your argument that the State, irrespective of the form of government under which it operates, cannot deal with people too young to formulate an informed opinion about their lives.

If we define society as a group of people single or in families with varied needs satisfied by the varied, reciprocal capabilities of each component of the group, we have to accept that the children in that group are of interest to all the adults in view that these will be the novel society forming at the elders’ death.

Let us imagine that an accident deprives one of those children from parental support, the remaining adults must and normally do take the care of the bereaved one. It is for the good of all.

If this is the normal, natural, humane course of events any interference from people extraneous to the natural family of man, is to be constantly and strictly supervised to see that the child’s sense of belonging to a society that care is not lost.

The existence of a minister of State (a parasite to man) regulating the education of children from the remoteness of a seat in a ministerial office is one of the symptoms of an insane society, universities and their products, the inevitable consequences.

An insane society can be defined as one where each member refuses to perform civil duties by forsaking civil (and human) rights.
Posted by skeptic, Friday, 15 April 2011 5:41:04 PM
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Dear Vanna and Jewely,
I would be happy to see daycare centres made obsolete too, if only the men in our apparently 'feminist society' would make enough money for all us women to be able to stay home and look after our babies, and not have to work both in and out of the home.

Yes, bring back the 1950's !
Posted by suzeonline, Friday, 15 April 2011 11:50:38 PM
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Suxanonline,
Another rather tragic sight is the rows of bassinets and cots in the feminist ideal of a daycare center. One has to wonder if the babies are ever picked up and cuddled, or just left in the bassinet or cot all day.

I would think there should be more than a review of the “naughty corner”

Perhaps a major review of children’s health in our feminist society.

- About half of Australian babies are hospitalised before they're two.
- ˝ million children have mental health disorders.
- One in 10 schoolchildren drinks dangerous levels of alcohol weekly.
- One in three young Australian deaths is suicide.
- Forty per cent of Australian children are asthmatic.
- Sixty-five per cent of Australian children will be overweight or obese by 2020.
- Type 2 diabetes in children is skyrocketing.

Institutionalised care in the feminist ideal of a daycare center (so the mother can pursue her "career") has not seemed to reduce the above health problems, and perhaps it does have to be left to men to solve these problems.

Mothers and feminists have had their chance and failed.
Posted by vanna, Saturday, 16 April 2011 6:12:40 AM
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This list Vanna, you’ve decided that only women in our society are responsible for it? I’m starting to think you have some sort of aversion to anything in rows.

I agree Suze, a parent at home raising the young ones is something Australia should support and subsidise instead of daycare. But then that thing about old people and needing more tax payers probably comes up.

Skeptic:”The existence of a minister of State (a parasite to man) regulating the education of children from the remoteness of a seat in a ministerial office is one of the symptoms of an insane society, universities and their products, the inevitable consequences.”

You object to them having offices? Who should regulate it? You lost me.
Posted by Jewely, Saturday, 16 April 2011 9:45:23 AM
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