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Will PM Gillard Deliver Foreign Policy Innovation on Macedonia? : Comments

By Ordan Andreevski, published 24/2/2011

Australia's stance on Macedonia is at odds with some of her strongest allies.

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"Fresh thinking and new leadership is required to put Australia's national interests ahead of the interests of Greece which has been pursuing a destabilising and unsustainable foreign policy toward Macedonian and Turkish integration into the EU"

So the Slavs of Northern Macedonia are continuing their 'alliance' with Turkey.

I have a deal to make with the Slavs. We will give them back the lands of Florina (that is the ONLY place where these people are from in Greece), IF they support Greece's claim to take back Constantinople, Smyrna and the hinterland, Eastern Thrace, and the Pontus area of the Black Sea.
Posted by Savvas Tzionis, Thursday, 24 February 2011 8:16:46 AM
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Gillard shouldn't get any further out of her depth than she already is ,she has her own Pensioners starving through her largess with the money that they contributed to Australian savings , Gillard needs to attend to the mess she has made of her Innovative Meanderings in OZ before she bothers anyone else with her Weird Welsh Philosophy .
Posted by Garum Masala, Thursday, 24 February 2011 11:05:30 AM
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I agree with you Savva. You should move there, you belong to middle east, not europe.
Posted by Lerin, Thursday, 24 February 2011 1:13:54 PM
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For those not in the know, the name Lerin is the alternative name for Florina. I think it is Turkish. How ironic after your intended slur, Lerin.

Anyway, Eastern Thrace and Constantinople are NOT part of the Middle East. And I daresay most of Anatolia (or Asia Minor) are not considered part of the Middle East either.

But I suspect you were implying that the Greeks look Middle Eastern.

We can take that two ways.

1) Being Middle Eastern looking, Greeks do not belong in Europe, or
2) We look Middle Eastern, and that is a slur in itself, because Middle Eastern looking people are looked down upon.

The Slavs of Northern Macedonia appear to doing what the Greeks of Cyprus are doing at the moment. Looking to alternative benefactors. Cyprus and Greece building bridges with Israel. FYROM with Turkey.

Very disappoining in both cases as they are both occupiers.
Posted by Savvas Tzionis, Thursday, 24 February 2011 1:25:35 PM
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Savvas,
We Macedonians come from all parts of Macedonia, including Lerin (Florina), Kostur (Kastoria), Voden (Edhessa), and Solun (Thessaloniki). But, our identity, our culture, our existence does not pose any sort of mortal threat to Greece or a separatist dream. That is just what the fascists of Greece have brainwashed you into believing. The truth is that many Aegean Macedonians are happy to remain Greek citizens, and raise their children in Greece. All they want is to preserve their culture, their language, and their faith. Time for Greece to learn how to make peace, and act like Christians for a change. This Greek vendetta against the Macedonians is a self-inflicted wound, and it couldn't come at a worse time for the Greek people, who have much more important work to do then hating their neighbors.
Posted by egejche, Thursday, 24 February 2011 2:15:07 PM
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Hmmm...

The Macedonia Slavs of Thessaloniki? WHo are they? Where are they? All I ever hear is the people from Florina and the occasinal Kastorian, Aridaian or Edessian.

You do realise the absurdity of wanting to be known as Macedonians within Greece itself?

How do we differentiate between Greek Macedonians and Slav Macedonians.

What would happen if Greece decided to federate and create a nation state called Macedonia? What would happen to your identity?

You can preserve your culture, your faith, ESPECIALLY your language within Macedonia and Greece itself. Just use another name.
Posted by Savvas Tzionis, Thursday, 24 February 2011 2:41:02 PM
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