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Whistleblower in Coventry: Dr Yolande Lucire and Big Pharma : Comments

By Peter King, published 20/12/2010

For standing-up to non evidence-based medicalisation of her patients Dr Yoland Lucire is being persecuted by the NSW Medical Board.

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Dr. Yolande Lucire’s knowledge of akathisia-suicide and violence caused by psychiatric drugs and its relationship to diminished metabolizm genes inspired me to investigate my son’s drug-induced suicide.
He consulted mental health because he had used cannabis; he was not schizophrenic ever. He committed suicide under NSW mental health care. He was also under community treatment order force drugging. He is possibly one of the un-investigated “80-100 suicides”, but maybe not as the coroner suggested he had been like Private Kovco who had been deemed “skylarking.”
They do not even know how many or what they were taking; this is a problem, he was on huge doses, 600 mg of zuclopenthixol, this is metabolised by CYP450 2D6 and it also inhibits 2D6 metabolizm so he could not metabolize it at all and he was made toxic, suicidal and violent. He was a genotype intermediate metabolizer (2D6*1*4) turned by the drug into a phenotype poor or non-metabolizer.
He first got Zyprexa for cannabis induced hallucinations (Zyprexa is olanzapine) 10% who do not hallucinate before, hallucinate on Zyprexa (that is in Product Information); then he was given an antidepressant, Luvox (fluvoxamine) on top, even though this drug combination is warned about in Product Information.
There was no informed consent.
He got worse, more violent and more suicidal. He was not like that before the psychiatric drugs.
Are they familiar with http://ssristories.com/ ?
Posted by ByTheWay29, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 1:20:47 PM
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Continued from preceding posting:

When my son attacked his doctor, they sent him to prison where he was injected with 400 mg of Clopixol (zuclopenthixol), metabolized by 2D6 which he lacked. This is four times maximum dosage and double with his genes. Its half-life is 19 days, so toxicity is inevitable even in normal metabolizers if given every 14 days.
He was force injected on community treatment order, signed by the same magistrate who conducted or who rather refused to conduct, an inquiry into his suicide death.
He tried to kill himself and when brought back to the hospital was so suicidal they re-diagnosed him as having “personality disorder”.
He killed himself within two days, before his next scheduled forced high dosage depot injection of zuclopenthixol.
The Medical Board of NSW and a Minister of the State Parliament both told me this was “standard psychiatric treatment.” Even after I had advised of his genetic problem; still it just goes over their heads.
The State Coroner and the Judicial Commission both told me that their magistrate did not have a conflict of interest.
Do Australians understand conflict of interest?
Can a magistrate investigate suicides caused by drugs he ordered to be enforced?
This is what the Soviets did to dissidents to torture them in the 1970s; injected huge doses of Serenace (haloperidol) and they say: look he really is mad, suicidal and violent when they were forcibly induced to develop akathisia on these drugs. This is torture?
I am not a doctor, my qualification for basic first grade reading ability is my father was a pharmacist.
The NSW medical Board and the State Government Minister are covering for each other at the Health Care Complaints Commission by defining this as “standard psychiatric treatment” even after they were told that my son was a genetically poor metabolizer (2D6*1*4) of psychiatric drugs.
This is what is wrong with Australia’s psychiatrists and lawyers.
They weave and dodge and attempt to evade responsibility for their actions while possessing no concern for patient safety yet are continually diddling the Australian Public with dangerous drugs.
Posted by ByTheWay29, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 1:25:15 PM
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ByTheWay29, thank you for sharing your loss with us. He will not be forgotten. Nor how it happened. Your courage is amazing. best wishes
Beth.

As a survivor it is difficult to know what to say.
My only input here is personal experience not science or statistics.

For the disbeliever in Yola and her works. You should have walked in my shoes for the last 25 years.

During one of my hospitalizations my husband was asked to leave when he told them you are making her worse.

His comment regarding Dr. Lucire, "Yola is a breath of fresh air in the medical profession."
Posted by Beth_Albury, Thursday, 6 January 2011 1:10:22 AM
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An excellent article by Peter King. I do not live in Oz but the manipulation of the medical care system by pharmaceutical companies is a universal problem.
I am not a medical doctor either but it is an interesting proposal that a genetic deficiency leads to the failure to metabolize antidepressants resulting in toxic levels in the body. I'm not sure that these drugs would be any less dangerous if one could metabolize them because they have so many other side-effects besides akathisia.
I became suicidal right after the first time I was prescribed antidepressants but it wasn't until I stopped taking them on my own volition against my psychiatrist's advice that I stopped being suicidal.
Dr. Yolanda Lucire is a heroine and we need more doctors like her.
Posted by bob47, Thursday, 6 January 2011 5:58:29 AM
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My member of parliament listened politely to my history and the healing taking place and received relevant documentation sometime ago.
Like the NSW Medical Board it fell on deaf ears.

Dr. Lucire did not discharge me. Nor did I choose to cease consultation with her. The NSW Medical Board decided that for us.

Where are the other ex-patients?
Are they busy rebuilding their lives and making up for lost time?
Do they not have google alert for Dr. Lucire hoping to see a Nobel Prize?

No, perhaps they are intimidated by the NSW Health Care Complaints Commission. One can only assume they received the same letter followed by the lengthy interegating phone call.

Will the HCCC view these posts as a misdemeanor as Dr. Lucire is here also?

After the horrors of being psychotic on prescription drugs they will not frighten me...
Posted by Beth_Albury, Thursday, 6 January 2011 9:33:31 AM
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Dear Bob47,

Your comment is typical.

It is not an 'interesting proposal' the genetic mutations associated with poorly metabolising genes are linked to side effects. It is well established that side effects are related to blood levels. If they recognised them, psychiatrists decreased the dose when side effects appeared. My colleagues recognise dyskinesia, spasms, but fail to recognise akathisia. The relevant genetic information in contained in product information. Inability to metabolise leads to drug toxicity and side effects.

Google safety pharmacogenetics. This information had not yet reached the regulators of the antipodes but is in few centres of excellence.

Drug reps go around telling doctors that suicidality is not a side effect and that Dr. Lucire has lost her mind.

The only original finding attributable to me is that medication side effects fill hospital beds and increase demand and costs by 4% per year. They include bleeding, strokes, cognitive impairments, organic personality disorder with borderline features, akathisia, suicdality, violence and medication induced hallucinations. over 100 tested show that are getting more than they can metabolise or have mutations and cannot metabolise single doses.

Side effects are blamed by the drug companies on "the disease" so doctors give more drugs. You will see 'hostility' (homicidal thoughts) behavioural dyscontrol in jargon, behaviours uncharacteristic of the person.

From DSM IV about akathisia so you possibly did have it, as it is the condition that leads to suicidal thinking.

Associated Features of neuroleptic and SSRI-induced akathisia

... subjective complaints of restlessness...
The subjective distress resulting from akathisia is significant and can lead to noncompliance with neuroleptic treatment. Akathisia may be associated with dysphoria, irritability, aggression or suicide attempts. Worsening of psychotic symptoms or behavioural dyscontrol may lead to an increase in neuroleptic medication dose, which may exacerbate the problem. Akathisia can develop very rapidly after initiating or increasing neuroleptic medication.

The development of akathisia appears to be dose dependent.

Acute akathisia tends to persist for as long as neuroleptic medications are continued, although the intensity may fluctuate over time. The prevalence of akathisia among individuals receiving neuroleptic medication has varied widely (20%-75%)
Posted by Yola, Thursday, 6 January 2011 1:15:14 PM
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