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Dismantling a homosexual marriage myth : Comments

By Bill Muehlenberg, published 25/11/2010

The attempt to radically redefine the very essence of marriage is not a minor word change.

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When a person has a lack of self esteem and being, due to their aberrant sexual behaviour, why do they become hell-bent on trying to force their surroundings to conform with their behaviour instead of modifying their behaviour to conform with the natural order?

None of it would matter if they didn't insist on dragging children down into their own cesspool.
Posted by Proxy, Sunday, 28 November 2010 6:50:06 PM
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gpenglase:

"Christians are by definition, followers of Christ, and for that to be so must adhere to the teachings in the Bible which include: homosexuality is a sin and called an abhorrence to God."

The bible has all sorts of rules and regulations that are completely ignored (I hope) by MOST if not ALL Christians. An example:

"that scoundrels among you are leading their fellow citizens astray by saying, ‘Let us go worship other gods’—gods you have not known before. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find that the report is true and such a detestable act has been committed among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy[a] all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the open square and burn it. Burn the entire town as a burnt offering to the Lord your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the Lord will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a large nation, just as he swore to your ancestors." (Deuteronomy 13:13-17)

It's up to christians to critically examine what the bible, particularly the old testament, claims is a sin. If you can't do that, if you "must adhere to the teachings of the bible", it is therefore your obligation to come and murder everyone in my village (Melbourne) and burn it to the ground.

The bible also sanctions killing babies and children, raping the wives of your enemy, and basically killing anyone for any minor breach.

That's bibilcal morality for you. Thankfully many christians can see through the BS and use their own brains to determine what is ACTUALLY right or wrong. But you say what it says in the bible is the word of god and must be "adhered to".

I think you might need to start a terrorist group.
Posted by TrashcanMan, Sunday, 28 November 2010 7:06:02 PM
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When a person carries with them the baggage of negative experience, or personal thinking of failure in life, then life will not be an experience of love and happieness.
Rid thyself of this baggage, which is not of your making, and the true meaning of life, love and happiness will be revealed!
So says Kipp!! :)
Posted by Kipp, Sunday, 28 November 2010 7:28:33 PM
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Can we have a 'like' button?

Thanks kipp, I like!
Posted by TrashcanMan, Sunday, 28 November 2010 7:36:25 PM
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Proxy:
<<When a person has a lack of self esteem and being, due to their aberrant sexual behaviour, why do they become hell-bent on trying to force their surroundings to conform with their behaviour instead of modifying their behaviour to conform with the natural order?>>

1 Homosexuality is not "unnatural" if it is genuinely in accord with the individual's psycho-biological traits. Homosexuality occurs naturally in many species.

2 If being homosexual results in "lack of self-esteem" it would only be because of the contempt that people like you shower on them.

3 To "modify their behaviour" in order to appear heterosexual would indeed be unnatural -- psychologically and spiritually unhealthy. It is morally wrong for anyone to make such demands of them.

gpenglase:
<<Christians are by definition, followers of Christ, and for that to be so must adhere to the teachings in the Bible which include: homosexuality is a sin and called an abhorrence to God.>>

You must not try to use the Bible to justify your personal prejudices. Some earnest mental effort is necessary to glean God's Word from the Scriptures. God's Word is not simply the words printed on the paper. Taking carefully selected scriptural passages literally and then using them as ammunition for expressing your hatred of homosexuals is to neglect the gift of intellect that God gave you.

Also consider the fact that the authors of the Bible did not have the knowledge we have today about the biological roots of sexual orientation and its psychological consequences. Homosexuality is not a "choice": it is the very being of the person.

If you genuinely want to evaluate your path as a Christian, I would heartily recommend reading (as a start) "Rescuing the Bible from Fundamentalism", by Bishop John Shelby Spong.

Peace be with you.
Posted by crabsy, Sunday, 28 November 2010 7:50:04 PM
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"You must not try to use the Bible to justify your personal prejudices. Some earnest mental effort is necessary to glean God's Word from the Scriptures. God's Word is not simply the words printed on the paper. Taking carefully selected scriptural passages literally and then using them as ammunition for expressing your hatred of homosexuals is to neglect the gift of intellect that God gave you."

It is not a personal prejudice, it's a deeply held conviction. The Bible doesn't 'justify' this conviction, the Bible lays it down in the first place. Why would we take what is written in black and white, easy enough for anybody to understand and apply 'earnest mental effort' to twist it to say what we want it to say? God's word is perfect. And once again, we do not 'hate' homosexuals and I'm sure you know that. You accuse us of something you know isn't true in order to justify your own unwillingness to face the fact that God's word calls homosexual behaviour a sin.
Posted by Rumplestiltskin, Sunday, 28 November 2010 9:19:47 PM
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