Ramond said "How can we justify the exclusion of a group of people
from something like marriage,
when marriage is so important in today's society"

That's probably the most poignant argument here but you fail to understand one small thing. They are excluding themselves from marriage. It's a union between two complimentary halves which creates a beautiful and miraculous whole. No matter whether this corrupt, evil world system legalizes it or not, they will never experience what marriage is really all about.

THose of us who argue here are not about telling the homosexual community what they can and can't do. They make their own decisions and suffer the consequences in this life and the next. That's the beauty and tragedy of this world that God has created. He has given every human a free will and with this free will most humans choose self destruction.

No, we are not playing with your free will, even if we could. We are about protecting the children who will be the ultimate guinea pigs once this world desecrates and tears apart what is holy and sacred.

"THose of us who argue here are not about telling the homosexual community what they can and can't do. "

Rubbish. You're telling gays they can't marry.
On the basis of your religious beliefs.

You need to wake up to the fact that this
isn't a Christian society, if ever it was.

Homosexual relations are perfectly legal in Australia
and the ban on gay marriage is discrimination based on sexuality,
pure and simple.

<<Homosexual relations are perfectly legal in Australia
and the ban on gay marriage is discrimination based on sexuality,
pure and simple.>>

This statement is readily paraphrased to highlight its absurdity:

Polyamorous relations are perfectly legal in Australia
and the ban on polygamous marriage is discrimination based on sexuality, pure and simple.

Furthermore, using the legal status of homosexual behaviour to justify overturning the legal status of marriage as being between a man and a woman is pure sophistry.

The relentless deviousness displayed by homosexual activists in their attempts to destroy normal marriage is disturbing to witness.

Their callousness toward the inevitable child victims of their agenda is disgusting.

What a joke.

Just because homosexuals are more open about their infidelity just makes them more honest than heterosexuals.

Ever heard of swingers parties? They are more common than you would like to imagine, and they are a HETEROSEXUAL invention.

Prostitutes make a great deal of money off married HETEROSEXUAL men and women.

Once again, an irrelevant argument to try and restrict equality in our society based on prejudice, fear and hatred.

There is no logical, moral argument against gay marriage.

There are plenty of logical moral arguments against inequality.

TrashcanMan has it about right.
I haven't seen an argument here against gay marriage
that isn't disguised or blatant homophobia, mostly based on religion.
It's all prejudice, fear and hatred as TrashcanMan says.
It's almost as if these so-called Christians
have to invent someone to hate and exclude.

@ Proxy, your logic is faulty, as I suspect you well know.
If there were sufficient numbers of "polyamorous" people
who wanted polygamous marriages legalised,
then undoubtedly we would see something equivalent
to the push for gay marriage rights in recent years.

But evidently there aren't, so we haven't.
I believe that your fallacious style of argumentation
is known as creating a "straw man".
As TrashcanMan also cogently said,
there is no logical or moral argument against gay marriage.

Well Talisman, you haven't been looking very hard.
You and Trashcanman are similar in that you ignore the obvious.

Society embraces discrimination and inequalities of all sorts for the betterment of society. Our society doesn't allow polygamy, bestiality, paedophilia and until recently homosexuality. We discriminated against these things because they are not in the best interests of humankind or of society. As biological functions they server no purpose, and as moral equations they are outside of moral tenants upon which our societies were built.

The fact that homosexuality has been legalised doesn't change these facts. Marriage is an institution setup for the purpose of man and woman and of providing a safe secure environment for the growth of the family and the children it produces. Using the argument that heterosexual infidelity justifies homosexuality is a strawman - marriage is all about heterosexual fidelity and society frowns upon and rules against infidelity inside marriage. Please, tell me again how homosexuality fits into that, given that homosexuals celebrate their 100% rate of infidelity, and given that the main gay activists that I've read use this very argument as a reason why homosexuals must destroy the institution of marriage to be truly accepted in society.