Proxy,

Selectively cherry picking examples does not prove anything. For example, 16.7% of heterosexual adults experience IPV, however, it is not evenly spread, as only 11% of males experience it whilst heterosexual females are almost the same as Lesbians. Also the level of injury they sustain is far higher.

As for the marginally higher "diseases" they suffer from, any statistician will tell you that if you look hard enough you will find anomalies. I would guess that HIV amongst lesbians is almost non existent.

TrashManCan, InthelightMinister, sorry I mean "Shadow Minister" and "we are unique" .. you need to apply yourselves to answering these points;

"Homosexuality is damaging to society in many ways, even to the extent of having hoomosexuals who don't reach their full potential in becoming moral stable and responsible parents (1). I knew a doctor who used to tell me stories of homosexuals needing medical care because they'd picked up penicillin resistant STDs on an overseas trip or even in at least one case, one guy had an implement stuck up his anus, requiring an operation(2). Then we could talk about the cost to our community of AIDS and how much less the problem would be if homosexuals could control themselves morally/ responsibly(3). I've known a workplace to virtually fall apart because one male partner didn't want to be the bitch anymore ... but I'm sure you have heard all this before. Its time to show some integrity." and ..

Do you accept that "2 wrongs don't make a right"? Citing heterosexual failures as an excuse for making similar homosexual failures is no argument at all; we need to aim at a higher standard, face the facts and show some integrity please.
Likewise you haven't answered Proxy's points either. ...

and Shadow Minister .. its not cherry picking at all. We've cited particular traits peculiar to homosexual activity occurring all around the world. Further, you need to compare apples with apples ... sexual problems requiring medical attention *per head of Hetero" v "per head of Homo". The incidence is higher with homosexuals just as the number of sexual partners is far higher with Homosexuals compared to heterosexuals. HIV AIDS has spread far faster due to homosexual behaviour than heterosexual behaviour, and in both cases, promiscuity which is a hallmark of homosexual behaviour is the predominant cause.

Obviously for those that think because apes do it, that somehow the risk is acceptable or the behaviour moral, the real solution remains a long way off.

<<I would guess that HIV amongst lesbians is almost non existent.>>

It's interesting that you use your "guess that HIV amongst lesbians is almost non existent" to bolster your claims but dismiss the fact that male homosexuals have 40-80 times the prevalence of HIV as the general population as irrelevant.
You can't have it both ways.

Proxy/Chris,

Your arguments could be used against Christianity.

Top 10 Christian countries in Africa: Average HIV/AIDs rate is 11.3%

Top 10 Muslim countries in Africa: Average HIV/AIDs rate is 1.5%

And a hell of a lot more children dying of AIDs thanks to Christians spreading it compared to gay men anywhere.

So if homosexuality is so "destructive", surely you must agree that Christianity is even more so, as their "practices" in Africa are causing the deaths of hundreds of thousands of children every year.

G'day Trashmancan.

No the arguments cannot be used against Christianity and certainly not against Catholicism which stands resolute against modern day adoptions of timeless threats to the dignity of the person.

You're not comparing apples with apples are you. Countries especially undemocratic countries are eons from personal responsibilities and individual sexual mores. You know that.

I notice you avoid mentioning Uganda where Catholic teaching alone can be credited with the lowest incidence/ infection rate of Aids. Why because the teaching was for marriage fidelity and abstinence. So even if your figures are correct (big questionmark) then the only conclusion that can be drawn is that within the countries you cite, they're not practising Catholics.

You make me laugh with a comparison to Islamic countries - bit hard to transmit HIV/ AIDS when you've been stoned to death. Perhaps homosexuals would prefer Sharia Law to the Christian approach of personal autonomy/ responsibility, compassion and the Truth of Natural Law?

Christians are not causing the deaths of hundreds of thousands of children anywhere; people not following Christian principles are.

The scientific evidence is clearly against homosexual behaviours because of their promiscuity and the animalistic unchaste nature of anal rape.

Unrepentant homosexuals have put their faith in their own feelings and judgement. Their eternal future is in that one basket - are they objective enough about what they want for themselves to justify that?

Logic isn't going to work here though .. maybe this will?

http://www.youtube.com/user/RealCatholicTVfeature=mhum#p/a/u/0/L8Xs1Hcvbjw