"To those that would seek to stop gay marriage, like Tony Abbott and his mates in the Catholic Church, it’s time to say that we will no longer be lectured by a pack of superstitious virgins."

"The second obstacle is in the form of our “dear leader” Julia Gillard, who, like many Australians, has decided that doing nothing is the path to remaining neutral - the “I’m not gay, so it’s not my problem” lot. These people need to know that doing nothing is itself a decisive and deliberate course of action."

So maybe we apply the same tolerance to gay marriage that you apply to our leaders, who are elected officials?

How's that for equality?

You might like it to be a moral obligation, but it doesn't become one just because you say so or that you have decided to be aggressive or adversarial about it.

I'm happy that we take a decisive and deliberate course of action, to gay marriage, and do nothing - I'm sick of bullies who try to use weasel words and cajoling, along with skewed push polls to force an issue that they cannot even explain the benefits of to the rest of society.

Put it to a referendum, the elected officials are a reflection of their constituency, and if you don't like their response, the only other course is referendum.

Yes, lets have a referendum, and kick this bloody topic into touch once and for all. There are more important things to be worried about for God's sake

I was never for or against gay marriage. I now think same sex marriage might be the best way to go.
As gay people will then be on a level playing field with "straight" people there will be no need for the Gay Mardi Gras (Taxpayers will save here), there will be no need for guy clubs, for that matter there will be no further need to live or play separately.
Gay people will have all the same benefits as "straight" people.

If ever there was a time to stand up for morality and true love, (Heterosexual) it is now.

We need to fight against the HATE being promoted by the Gay Rights fanatics, and their Fabian/Marcusian Labor sympathizers, and re-state for the world to hear:

"I and my house have chosen God and His way"

We are very close now to a Gay rights/Favian Socialist fuelled HATE campaign against Christians and any group which may not approve of homosexual behavior.

EXAMPLE
https://faithandthelaw.wordpress.com/2010/11/02/united-kingdom-high-court-to-decide-whether-christian-couple-can-foster/

EXAMPLE
http://www.starobserver.com.au/news/australia-news/new-south-wales-news/2010/07/17/bretheren-case-%E2%80%98has-future-implications%E2%80%99/27943

We should all take up the fight to end victimization and persecution of Christians and their beliefs, by so called 'equality' commissions and so called 'Human Rights' commissars.

The CYC case revolved around a 'phone call'... which makes me very suspicious about how it was handled by the courts. Was their any corroborating evidence? Unless an application in writing is made..all we have is 'hearsay'... he said/he said.

The GREENS are out to destroy Christianity, no question about it.
Although such anti God pogroms are never successful, they do however create a lot of harm and hurt along the way.

Remember Quintus Fabius Maximus. "The inevitability of Gradualism"

In my opinion, this whole issue comes down to the improper separation of church and state in regards to the Marriage act. While I'm no expert when it comes to law, it seems that marriage should be either a religious or a state institution, not both as it currently seems to be now. Personally other than historical reasons I can't see why the government needs to regulate the union of people as they see fit. All issues regarding to property, children etc are already regulated by other laws. My solution would be to decentralize marriage to allow churches, or any other community group decide who is allowed to marry in 'their' institution. This way (for example) a catholic church could choose who gets married (and who doesn't) through the catholic church, and the same with other groups who can be as inclusive or exclusive as they please. I am happy to hear suggestions/criticisms on this theory but lets try and keep it constructive.

Boaz, it is a dry well you are pumping here.

>>Remember Quintus Fabius Maximus. "The inevitability of Gradualism"<<

Here's your mate Glenn Beck on the topic:

"But Fabian Socialists was a society that was founded in January of 1884. The members sought to influence public opinion on socialism. But what they — what made them unique was, at the time, if you wanted to be a socialist, you needed a mass revolution. Well, they preferred the selective education — selective education. You've seen it here beginning under the Woodrow Wilson administration. It was the education of the powerful few, especially those in government and the media who could lead reforms in government. It is why our media is so screwed up. And they all think alike. Their strategy is called doctrine of inevitability of gradualism<<

Let's take a quick look under the covers.

"if you wanted to be a socialist, you needed a mass revolution."

That's completely ass-backwards.

It is not the mass revolution that makes you a socialist, it is being a socialist that makes you want mass revolution.

"Well, they preferred the selective education"

Selective education? The original Fabians (which is the group Beck is talking about) supported "workers institutes" which, as the name implies, were places for the less well-off to string together bits of knowledge, as well as see plays, read books etc. Not exactly a political hot-bed, I'm afraid. More an enlightened form of charity.

>> It was the education of the powerful few...<<

Sadly for your argument, Mr Beck, it was education for the dispossessed many. The exact opposite of what you are suggesting here.

And it is important also to bear in mind that there is absolutely nothing inevitable about gradualism.

Sorry, that's not exactly correct.

The only thing that is inevitable about gradualism, is that it is gradual. It does not actually guarantee change.

In fact, it provides far more opportunity for opposition than, say, a revolution.

But don't let that stop you pretending that it is the ultimate code-word for the downfall of civilization, Boaz.

As if that were remotely possible.