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Parliamentarians should have a conscience vote on gay marriage : Comments
By Rodney Croome, published 1/11/2010For often perverse reasons our parliamentary institutions have failed to keep pace with public opinion on gay marriage.
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Posted by Proxy, Saturday, 6 November 2010 1:05:58 PM
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Proxy and Al Gore (ie Boaz) You really do have to explain why you have an obsession with Gay people, who are no threat to you and using the bible is a cop out ( even you two have no idea who wrote it!).
Though studies have shown (one for researcher Proxy!!), that people who have strong feelings of homophobia, have personal issues they have not addressed, or they have latent homosexual inclinations. Posted by Kipp, Saturday, 6 November 2010 4:57:55 PM
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<<studies have shown that people who have strong feelings of homophobia have latent homosexual inclinations>>
How often do these dreary old canards get dragged out by the bereft of brain? So here we go again - Just like "studies have shown" that: - people who object to shariah law have latent inclinations to behead infidels - people who object to abortion have a latent desire to pull babies heads off with forceps - people who object to the death penalty really want to pull the lever on some poor schmuck - people who object to taxes are repressed tax collectors - yada, yada, yada Whereas, in the real world, studies have shown that people who mindlessly call people who disagree with them "....phobes", don't have an argument. Posted by Proxy, Saturday, 6 November 2010 5:35:31 PM
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Proxy dearest,
> > people who mindlessly call people who disagree with > > them "....phobes", don't have an argument. Disagreeing with a homosexual is not homophobia, and no-one has claimed that it is. Arguing that some human beings deserve fewer rights because they are homosexual most definitely is homophobia. > > <<studies have shown that people who have > > strong feelings of homophobia have latent > > homosexual inclinations>> > > > > How often do these dreary old canards get dragged > > out by the bereft of brain? Here's a link to the research paper that Kipp was referring to: http://psycnet.apa.org/journals/abn/105/3/440/ If the homophobia study is ever replicated in Australia, I would urge you to volunteer as a subject. I'm confident you would learn a lot about yourself. Let's have the "bereft of brain" conversation again after you've provided some research backing up the following claims: > > - people who object to shariah law have latent inclinations to behead infidels > > - people who object to abortion have a latent desire to pull babies heads off with forceps > > - people who object to the death penalty really want to pull the lever on some poor schmuck > > - people who object to taxes are repressed tax collectors Posted by woulfe, Sunday, 7 November 2010 2:28:45 PM
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"Medically, men who have sex with men (MSM) are disproportionately at risk for sexually transmitted infections (STI) and HIV (Diggs, 2002). The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's Division of HIV/AIDS Prevention estimates that gay and bisexual men (men who have sex with men or MSM) in the United States are 50 times more likely to contract HIV than are heterosexual men (Lansky, 2009). This is largely due to having multiple sexual partners and engaging in risky sexual practices, including a high incidence of anal intercourse within this population (Diggs, 2002). For example, the estimated HIV risk with a single sexual exposure through receptive anal intercourse (2%) is 20 times greater than for receptive vaginal intercourse (0.1%), (Pinkerton, Martin, Roland, Katz, Coates, & Kahn, 2004).
Semen has immune-suppressant activity that increases the chance of sperm fertilizing a woman's egg during vaginal intercourse. If released in the rectum, however, semen makes this already vulnerable tissue more prone to both infection and the development of cancer - rectal carcinoma in MSM results from infection with a highly carcinogenic strain of HPV (Diggs, 2002). Of greater concern is that despite knowing the high risk of contracting HIV, many MSM repeatedly indulge in unsafe sex practices such as "bare-backing," i.e, deliberate, "unprotected" anal intercourse (Parsons & Bimbi, 2007; Parsons, Kelly, Bimbi, Muench, & Morgenstern, 2007; van Kesteren, Hospers, & Kok, 2007.) Homosexual women are also at higher risk for STI and other health problems than are heterosexual women (Evans, Scally, Wellard, & Wilson, 2007.) The negative consequences of homosexual behaviors are not limited to the physical harms noted above. Compared to their heterosexual peers, homosexual high school students and young adults (fourteen to twenty-one years old) in New Zealand, which has a culture highly tolerant of homosexuality, had significantly higher rates of major depression, generalized anxiety disorder, conduct disorder, nicotine dependence, other substance abuse and/or dependence, multiple disorders, suicidal ideation, and suicide attempts (Fergusson, Horwood, & Beautrais, 1999)." Posted by Proxy, Sunday, 7 November 2010 6:03:02 PM
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<<Arguing that some human beings deserve fewer rights because they are homosexual most definitely is homophobia.>>
Let's follow your flawed logic. Incestuous couples are human beings. Incestuous couples wish to marry. They claim it is their right, just like everyone else has the right to marry. You disagree that incestuous couples "deserve the right" to marry. Therefore you are an incestophobe because "arguing that some human beings deserve fewer rights because they are incestuous most definitely is incestophobia". Homosexual activists cannot legitimately argue for their "right to marry" without embracing the incestuous "right to marry". You might salvage a shred of your personal credibility if you went public in support of the incestuous right to marry but then you would undermine public support for your own agenda. An unfortunate dilemma inevitable arising from a hypocritical stance. Posted by Proxy, Sunday, 7 November 2010 6:30:06 PM
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eg,
Linda Jernigan,
Charlene Coltrane,
Michael Glatze,
Jackie Clune,
Janet Boynes,
etc,
demonstrates that homosexuality is not immutable.
The very act of attempting to normalise the abnormal will ensure that immature experimenters will become caught up in an unnatural and unhealthy lifestyle.
This is evidenced by the above-named, who tell of this very phenomenon.
Do we really want our boys to engage in activities which render them 50 times as likely to contract HIV - Aids?
Keep it in the cupboard where it belongs.