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Parliamentarians should have a conscience vote on gay marriage : Comments

By Rodney Croome, published 1/11/2010

For often perverse reasons our parliamentary institutions have failed to keep pace with public opinion on gay marriage.

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"People who would impose their distorted ideology on children so that those children would be forever deprived of having, or even knowing, a father and a mother are not soft targets."
-Proxy

Last time I checked this was still a scientific impossibilty, Proxy. Humans reproduce sexually, and we're not up to cloning just yet. All children have a mother and father, and no amount of homophobia will alter this biological fact.

As for the question of children knowing their biological parents: if gays are evil, so are folk who make use of surrogates, IVF and adoption. How many adopted children do you think get the chance for a meaningful relation with their biological father? Does it really matter? Single parents seem to do just as well as couples when it comes to raising kids - surely two mums/two dads would be at least a little bit better than just one parent?

"People who deliberately generate false research data on the effects of their activities on children simply to further their agenda are not soft targets.
People who deliberately agitate to withhold life and death information on the statistically manifest dangers of their sexual behaviour from young children in classrooms are not soft targets.
People who [blah, blah, blah]..."
-Proxy

I concur. Whoever these 'people who...' are, they should not be regarded as soft targets. I just don't see what this has to do with homosexuality.

Unless of course you're trying to insinuate that homosexuals equivalent to 'people who...'. In which case:

Prove it. 'Coz thus far, I've seen no evidence that would support your list of assertions. And where I come from, unsubstantiated allegations count for bugger all.
Posted by Riz, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 12:34:10 AM
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Proxy,

Yes, your concern for children’s minds is admirable…Not!

I wonder if it is more that you are concerned for your own mind.

If not, you should be :))

David
Posted by Atheist Foundation of Australia Inc, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 9:24:02 AM
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As I said, I have previously substantiated at OLO all of my above claims and I've long experienced your strategies to discredit, deny and wear down by this process.
Nevertheless, here's a new example that I haven't formerly documented which exemplifies homosexual activists lack of credibility:
"Child abuse rate at zero percent in lesbian households new report finds"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/10/lesbians-child-abuse-0-percent_n_781624.html
A report by homosexuals on self-reporting homosexuals can always be guaranteed to find what it wants to find.

Meanwhile:
"Two lesbian women charged in boy's torture"
http://www.streetgangs.com/features/two-lesbian-women-charged-in-boys-torture
The fact that their sexuality was mentioned proves that the report is homophobic!

"Gay couple left free to abuse boys - because social workers feared being branded homophobic
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-480151/Gay-couple-left-free-abuse-boys--social-workers-feared-branded-homophobic.html#ixzz15Vspm1FO"

Meanwhile, also in the UK:
"UK Couple Challenge Pro-Gay Views over Fostering Ban"

So, in the world that you people are forcing on innocent children, decent, caring, normal people who want to foster children can't because they don't embrace a radical, abnormal, unnatural agenda whereas homosexual paedophiles are protected from enquiry because of their sexuality and black lesbians don't torture little boys because a report by homosexuals says that they don't.

And you reckon there's something wrong with MY mind.
Posted by Proxy, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 3:14:24 PM
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The missing link:
"UK Couple Challenge Pro-Gay Views over Fostering Ban"
http://rowlands.maars.net/?p=6538

Yikes, they're black.
To say that they are homophobic is racist...
That does not compute...
Liberal meltdown...
Posted by Proxy, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 3:20:19 PM
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"As I said, I have previously substantiated at OLO all of my above claims"
-Proxy

No, you haven't. I've already explained the difference between anecdotal evidence and scientific data. Which means you're either wilfully ignorant or you're incredibly slow. I suspect the former.

"So, in the world that you people are forcing on innocent children, decent, caring, normal people who want to foster children can't because they don't embrace a radical, abnormal, unnatural agenda whereas homosexual paedophiles are protected from enquiry because of their sexuality and black lesbians don't torture little boys because a report by homosexuals says that they don't.

And you reckon there's something wrong with MY mind."
-Proxy

Yep, and this quote pretty much confirms it. 'Coz if you actually believe this:
"homosexual paedophiles are protected from enquiry because of their sexuality and black lesbians don't torture little boys because a report by homosexuals says that they don't"
then you are obviously delusional. You also seem to be somewhat paranoid. I suggest a visit to your GP, who should be able to give you referrals for appropriate psychiatric treatment.
Posted by Riz Too, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 4:13:55 PM
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PROXY! thanx for that link to the fostering couple.

The mind BOGGLES at how sinister and pernicious is the Gay Lobby/Political Correct Beaurocrats, that in a country where the MONARCH is head of state and Church...they could claim that 'Christians' are unfit to foster because of their 'unnacceptable' beliefs about homosexuality?

Welllll..l the marginalization is almost complete.. pretty soon it will be Christians to the London Colloseum and the lions will be unleased to make sport of their helpless bodies.

It might help us to know the philsophical background to all this, and you will now 'see' why I've raised threads about the History of PC.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8630135369495797236#

But this pattern of beginning persecution of Christians is quite in line with the communist Herbert Marcuse's essay in 1965
"Repressive Tolerance" 1965

PARAGRAPH 1

//THIS essay examines the idea of tolerance in our advanced industrial society. The conclusion reached is that the realization of the objective of tolerance would call for intolerance toward prevailing policies, attitudes, opinions, and the extension of tolerance to policies, attitudes, and opinions which are outlawed or suppressed.//

and...there you have it.

What he REALLY mean't was "Intolerance towards Christians and their beliefs" = "true tolerance".

A bit like Noel Ignatiev "Treason to the white race is loyalty to humanity"

Me thinks it's time for conservative forces to wake up, get up and GET OUT on the streets!
Posted by ALGOREisRICH, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 7:42:26 PM
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