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The Forum > Article Comments > Damned if we do, damned if we don’t - the West Australian approach to sex workers > Comments

Damned if we do, damned if we don’t - the West Australian approach to sex workers : Comments

By Elena Jeffreys, published 25/10/2010

An Ontario court judgement will have ramifications for West Australia

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I would think a sex act is rather different and less mechanical than filling a petrol tank.

As I have mentioned previously, if he pays money, then it is not rape.

If he does not pay money, then it is rape, and he could be put in jail for many years.

Prostitution is 100% money, with no morality or ethics applied at all.
Posted by vanna, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 7:34:24 PM
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*I would think that prostitution is more likely to lead to drugs*

More likely Vanna, that drugs lead to prostitution, as its one
way to pay for the habit, when it costs hundreds a day.

You seem to hang out in some really rough places, are then amazed
when people are indifferent and unfriendly. Well that is just big
city living for you. They have done trials on this. Somebody
collapses in the streets of New York, nobody cares. Do the same
in a country town, everyone comes running.

Yes, prostitutes do it for the money. That does not mean that they
cannot like a client, some even fall in love with clients.

But with your attitude, I don't blame them, if they are rather
unfriendly towards you.
Posted by Yabby, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 7:57:20 PM
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Yabby,
Your personalised remarks are not debate, they are personalised remarks.

You have not argued the "pros and cons" of prostitution, and most prostitutes are also con artists. They have no interest in the client, other than in the client's money, and if a man wants to be regarded as a walking wallet, he goes to prostitutes.

Money becomes sex - sex becomes money.

A prostitute will try and sell their body, but I have more pride than paying money to a prostitute for sex.
Posted by vanna, Thursday, 28 October 2010 8:00:18 AM
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*and most prostitutes are also con artists*

Vanna, you make these massive, generalised statements, which only
show your contempt for and bias against prostitutes. For they
are simply not correct. There are all types in the industry,
as there are all types of plumbers, electricians, lawyers and any
other trade that you care to mention.

Prostitution is simply another way to make a living. Nobody
is forcing you to talk to them, have anything to do with them,
or give them a cent of the money that you seem to value above
anything else. Fair enough, then don't.

Fact is I know plenty of blokes who go down to the pub, and will
con any pretty girl with any lie they can think of, any compliment
that might do the trick, any amount of alcohol, to get into
her pants. You think that this is ethical or moral?

Fact is that there are any amount of women, who will marry a guy,
as they want a "provider", to raise their children.

All these things are based on basic biological reality and go
so far back, that you can even read up primatology data to find
the same or similar played out, in other species.

All I am saying is that I find the hooker industry, refreshingly
honest. No need for all the lies and all the deception. She gives
him pleasure, even if she doesent feel like it, he gives her
pleasure, in that she can go shopping or whatever. All very
straight forward and matter of fact. Why should I object to
that kind of honesty?

You Vanna, can keep every cent of your money in your pocket,
if that is so important to you. For me its a far bigger issue
that under the pretence of marriage, men can lose the house, the
car, the bank account, or anything else they might have worked
for, for 20 years. Today it does not even require marriage.
The courts can do as they please really, with somebody's assets.

THAT is a major issue, not some working girl being honest about-her-intentions.
Posted by Yabby, Thursday, 28 October 2010 10:36:08 AM
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Yabby,
He is paying her money so she can go shopping?

But he has to work to earn the money. Now exact who is getting the best deal out of that.

One can also ask is marriage or any female/male relationship is now a form of prostitution, after the complete feminist corruption of our Family Law system?

And it doesn't have to be marriage. Living together is now sufficient.

She can carry out infidelity and also run off with another man, but he has to pay her money in the form of a property settlement (and quite often he is left with just enough to keep him alive)

She can also abduct the children and take them with her, but he has to pay her money in the form of child support.

So he has to pay her money at all times, and no matter what happens. Very similar to prostitution I would think, and no wonder so many feminists do not oppose prostitution.

But you can approach a prostitute if she knows that you haven't got any money, and see how she reacts.

The man is just a walking wallet.
Posted by vanna, Thursday, 28 October 2010 3:15:15 PM
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*But he has to work to earn the money.*

Err Vanna, if you ask her to provide a service, even if she
doesen't feel like it, she is doing the same.

Sure marriage has been turned into a business. Some certainly
exploit it, but not all. As with everything, there are
some very nice and some horrible men and women in this world.
It applies to both genders.

So you have options Vanna:

Find your soulmate, who doesent think like that.
Risk your assets to the whim of the courts.
Tie her up in legal agreements before you agree to
anything.
Get her drunk and lie through your teeth, as many blokes
do.
Have friends with benefits.
Pay for services rendered.
Go on a date with yourself.

You choose.
Posted by Yabby, Thursday, 28 October 2010 3:49:21 PM
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