Peter West <"One unfortunate by-product of feminism has been the proliferation of negative attitudes towards men. People talk of "the opposite sex" as if one sex was somehow opposed to, or completely different from, the other."

Well Peter, it certainly made a change from the predominantly negative attitudes towards women from the beginning of time!
I believe this anti-female attitude is still the dominant feeling in our world today, although we have certainly improved on those attitudes since the 1960's.

On the whole though, I found this article to be a fairly positive one re the gender wars of today. The author is correct in realising that usually Mothers love their sons, brothers and fathers, and Fathers love their daughters, sisters and mothers.

Thus how can the different genders feel negative towards all people of the opposite sex?
We all want what is best for all our family members and friends, no matter what their gender.

I, for one, feel positive about gender differences and similarities and believe it is what makes us attracted to each other!

I see RObert chose not to back up his claims of "distorted" figures, after being asked to do so. At least percusso 'tried', but the best he could come up with is an 'opinion' in a thesis (of all things) by a student.

Mikk, you wrote "women have now been encouraged to be just as shallow, emotionless and stupid as the men that used to smack their grandmothers around". NOT SO. The majority of men are not like that. The majority of men see feminism for what it is, a campaign for equal rights. Most men are not neanderthal anti female gender warriors.

Peter, in reply to a post I wrote you replied, "well women would say that wouldn't they". This is a BIG problem that gender warriors like you have, with gender attitudes that are based on beliefs and perceptions and not reality. I'm a MAN. You believe there is "no moral obligation" (your words) for a man to financially support his kids when he doesn't have custody. I consider a man with those attitudes to be a weak and self centered individual. I'm a man, but you're less than a man if that's what you really believe. You've let your genderisation of the issues blind you to the reality of real life.

Vanna wrote, "seems that feminism has been very active in poisoning the minds of so many". No vanna, what you're describing is "your" personal version of what feminism is. From reading your posts you seem to possess all the slogans and rhetoric of a gender warrior at war with those hated, evil and nasty feminists.

Grim you're right, being equal does not mean being the same. Having the "same" rights, does not mean "being" the same. The gender warriors don't understand that, they "believe" (like a religious belief) that all women who want equal rights want to be just like men. It's one way they genderise the equal rights issue.

Here's the current list of old timers "gender warriors":
Al
Ozandy
My grandad
Vanna
Percusso
RObert
Peter

Oh come on samsung.

What university did you attend to learn how to catagorise people under "old timers", or any other catagory you care to make up.

You can give the name of the university.

Still waiting on a positive word from you about men, or have you been trained not to think of any.

FEMINIST

Frustrated
Envious
Male-hating
Insipid
Non-sensical
Ignorant
Silly
Tart
:-)

HA ha ha. LOL.

Hmm, poor ol' Vanna, you're nose is out of joint because you "believe" I haven't written a positive word about men. You don't bother to actually read my posts do you! Just in the post directly above where you complain that I never write a positive thing about men I have written "The majority of men are NOT like that" in reply to a characterisation by someone else of men being shallow, stupid and wife beaters. i also wrote in the same post "most men are NOT neanderthal anti female gender warriors". In other words they are not like you.... they are normal, everyday men who love and admire women.

But let's now look at "your" posts. On page 1, page 2 and page 3 we have received from you constant anti female rhetoric and slogans.

Methinks you should look at your own pro male/anti fenmale "genderised" posts, before whinging about other people's posts. I'm glad I could clear that up for you.

I've just found a new addition to my old timers list. Welcome newcomer.

Here's the current list of old timers/gender warriors:
Al
Ozandy
My grandad
Vanna
Percusso
RObert
Peter
Individual