Peter, lovely "spin" you have there. Have you thought of ever becoming a politician? You'd do well (at least until the Royal Commission).

By the way Pete, if anyone becomes a parent, ANYONE, be they male or female, that person has an obligation towards financially supporting the child or children. Regardless of right or wrong, regardless of parental gender, regardless of personal circumstances, regardless of personal 'opinions', regardless of sexual/personal politics.

If you can't understand that basic fact of life, and judging by your above post I doubt you do, then I guess I'll just have to add you to the old timers list.

Here's the current list of old timers:
Al
Ozandy
My grandad
Vanna
RObert
Peter

samsung,

Here's a link to an article where the heads of physics at Sydney University and UNSW talk about the then new physics curriculum in NSW. They say it is an interesting course but just not physics:

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/11/04/1067708212432.html?from=storyrhs

This article was in 2003. Since then the curriculum has probably been dumbed down even more for the benefit of girls.

I guess professors of physics at some of Australia's most prestigious universities must be 'old timers' and couldn't possibly compare themselves to yourself - being a woman and all. Hey, you're probably even a graduate of a 'wymen's course' so you must know everything.

samsung you really do get threatened by any moves to cut back on the gender wars or criticism of the tools of the gender warriors don't you?

I've offered an opinion based on my reading on the topic. Now how about you provide some links to credible research which clearly spells out sufficient detail about the questions asked and the demographics of those questioned which backs up the idea that's being promoted by gender warriors of significant gender inequality in household work when all others factors are similar.

I've seen material that suggests that the claim is true in some situations - eg if the male is unemployed he is unlikely to do extra housework, the claim may have some truth in some ethnic groups and age groups but that does not make it as wide spread as some want us to believe.

If you think that links are needed then feel free to provide some which show the detail necessary to form an opinion about how valid the data collection was.

R0bert

samsung, you ask "Robert, would you please post links to these 'distorted' studies, so readers can see for themselves."

A typical such study is Lyn Craig's "The Hidden Cost of Parenthood: The impact of children on adult time" (http://menshealthaustralia.net/files/TheHiddenCostofParenthoodTheImpactofChildrenonAdultTime.pdf).

This study uses erroneous calculation methods to arrive at the conclusion that mothers average 2.5 more hours of total work per day than fathers. This figure is arrived at by adding up both primary activities (the main activity that a person was doing) and secondary activities (other activities that a person was doing at the same time - simultaneously with - their primary activities). E.g. a parent might be washing the dishes as their primary activity, while simultaneously doing childcare as their secondary activity.

If a parent spent an entire 24 hour day simultaneously doing housework and looking after their children, by this methodology they would be counted as having done 48 hours of work in that day, where clearly they actually only worked for 24 hours. Even if a person is “doing 2 things at once” for an hour, they are actually only doing one active thing at a time - their mind is just switching between the two activities. They are only working for one hour, not two.

This erroneous maths is also entirely biased towards the parent who does more child care. If a parent looks after their children from 9am to 5pm, every other activity they do during that time is inevitably “double-counted”. This means that mothers, who are currently more likely to spend more time on child care than fathers, end up appearing to work more hours per day than fathers.

Feminism, like many other good ideas, has been perverted and twisted by vested interests and the mass media. While started as a valid movement to reduce the oppression of women that was undoubtedly occurring in days gone by. It is now just women becoming the same as the men the feminists used to (rightly) despise. Women have been encouraged to be just as shallow, emotionless and stupid as the men that used to smack their grandmothers around.
Sad really

Robert
Some of my knowledge is anecdotal and experiential
so it is not entirely connected to statistics
Yes gardening is a wonderful activity and rewarding and I love it but when I was working I needed help with some of the inside chores as well.....I too was tired on returning from a days work..after preparing and serving a meal it would have been fair to have the dishes done and put away......for the man to take over that responsibilty , organising the children to assist and let me get on with the washing
In a relationship it is important to make the inevitable hard core chores not differentiated on gender.
Our decision was to get a housekeeper and this gave me ten more years of working