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Men in the age of feminism : Comments

By Peter West, published 22/10/2010

Men can never be feminists - millions have tried and nobody did better than C+.

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I think the situation is actually solvable.

If you are a male in our highly feminist society, and you can’t leave the country, then there are certain steps one should take.

1/ Don’t watch the media, which is highly feminist and anti-male and portrays males as buffoons. Instead of watching TV, read a book of your own selection or develop a hobby.

2/ Don’t spend your money on women, most of whom have now been feminist trained to think of men as only good for their money. Why be paying child support for children you will rarely see, and why be paying for a house you don’t live in.

Best overall to develop a life long interest such as fishing or boating, and if need be take bromide tablets.

I think many men will be much happier if they did this, and if our governments complain that there aren’t enough children, then it is up to governments to be properly supporting families, and to be properly reforming the Family Law system, and to be carring out purging of feminists from our education systems.
Posted by vanna, Monday, 25 October 2010 7:25:30 AM
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vanna that would be the same media which sacks women when they are not considered young enough?

The same media running Beauty and the Geek with it's massive play on stereotypes?

The same media running an endless succession of crime shows featuring highly competent men and women?

The same media running home makeover shows showing talented people (both men and women)?

The messages are very mixed, some good, some bad. There is a trend in some advertising campaigns to portray men as idiot's, sometimes to show women hitting men as a normal thing but I don't see that the overall message is as one-sided as you see it.

There are definitely a lot better things to do than sitting on the lounge in front of the telly but I don't think that just because the media is feminised.

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Monday, 25 October 2010 7:40:17 AM
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Robert,

Most of the mass media has no substance or meaning and is of no real benifite to anyone.

In a feminist society, most relationships with women are now the same, and are unliklely to be of any real benifite to men.

Best to think of something else.
Posted by vanna, Monday, 25 October 2010 7:54:12 AM
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Hey Jefferson, I thought I was fairly thorough in my view of 'equality'.
2 (apples) + 2 (oranges) = 4 (pieces of fruit).
I would suggest equality of the sexes (or any other human yardstick, for that matter) is about:
1.equal rights before the Law,
2. equal opportunity for everyone to achieve as much as they want or are capable of achieving,
3. the right to be treated with the same respect, regardless of race, creed, colour, sex and physical or mental ability
4. an equal right to freedom from exploitation, abuse and curtailment of civil liberties...
Need I really go on?
Posted by Grim, Monday, 25 October 2010 8:54:45 AM
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Individual, there are no doubt all kinds of "real" women, including quite a lot who might identify as feminists. The thing that sets them apart from the feminasties is that they understand that men and women have complementary strengths and weaknesses and that most men are not bastards.

The vast majority of them have no desire to sit on a board, or even to go to work if they can avoid it, just like the vast majority of men.

They know that the best chance for their kids is to have a good father close by and they quite like having a man around for the social and practical advantages that accrue, even if there's no Mills and Boon-style grand romance.

It's a shame that the ambitions of a minority of women have been allowed to set the social agenda for so long, to the detriment of nearly everyone else.

R0bert, the media loves stereotypes and if repeated frequently enough, they become reality. Feminism's great success has come from making negative stereotypes (and even negative portrayals of any kind) of women unacceptable while using negative stereotypes of men to imply an overall negative view of the male role in society and hence, justify a female entree into traditional male power structures. The media has played a key role in enabling this.

I think your point about the sock-puppet was a good one. She does seem to need someone to look up to. I wonder if the poor thing had a Mum who walked out on Dad. Who could blame her for turning out twisted? The saddest thing is the way she pretends to be a man.
Posted by Antiseptic, Monday, 25 October 2010 9:02:09 AM
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Grim, your definitions aren't bad ones and if feminism were about those things, as is often claimed, I'd not be bothered too much by it.

Of course, as it is done in the West these days, feminism isn't about equality, but about discrimination in favour of some women in some roles and about artificially creating opportubities to do things that most people wouldn't want to do if left to their own devices.

It's about reinventing traditional family-based roles and making them commercial activities, then subsidising them when it turns out that they're too expensive to provide commercially.

It's about pretending that a woamn's reproductive activity can be made as unobtrusive to normal activities as a man's, when it obviously can't, unless normal activity is home-based.

It's about removing the well-founded trade-offs that existed and replacing them with mandated rules that eliminate any need for female compromise, while demanding ever-greater levels of compromise from men.

It's entirely one-sided and it is unsustainable for that reason.

Feminists like to talk of a "backlash" and try to discredit any criticism of the aims of Fabian feminism as being no more than reaction. Look at the sock-puppet's "old timer's" for a rather puerile example of the form.

The "backlash" is nothing more than the views of normal people who see the abnormality being promoted as feminism and don't like it.
Posted by Antiseptic, Monday, 25 October 2010 10:10:38 AM
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