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Gillard's conflict on euthanasia more than justified : Comments

By Jim Wallace, published 1/10/2010

No matter how you intellectualise euthanasia it will never be right.

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Humanities rights have long been restricted by religiously driven dogma.

As society has evolved, the world has moved from a world dominated by "thy shalt not" to one where individual human rights are recognised, people have been allowed to choose for themselves.

Homosexuality used to be illegal, as divorce. As humanity gains the right to live as they choose, it is inevitable that they should desire to choose how to live the last few months.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Saturday, 2 October 2010 5:46:38 AM
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i recently participated..in a near/death..discussion..show will-be..on Friday 8th/at 8.30pm...aired..in brisbane..31 QCTV

some/of..the issues raised here...
are discussed there

there is a lot more to living...
and the way we die..than casual opinion can rectify...

[in fact many/topics fall into..the grey-zone]
thats what the program will/be called

there will be a discussion/link
so bring your/opinions there

its sad many/truelly-good..people really believe..death is it
there-is so much more/than this mere material incarnation

but so much..fits into the grey-area..of opinion
when we/should..be deciding things/based-on fact
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 2 October 2010 8:14:39 AM
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King Hazza, stop misrepresenting what I say.

I never said relatives will actively murder the elderly, but they *will* put the hard word on grandma to sign off on the euthanasia permit. I've seen the sordid depths to which peoples' treatment of their elderly relatives will descend.

I wish I could share the view from your ivory tower, but unfortunately I've been down in the mire of real life.
Posted by Clownfish, Saturday, 2 October 2010 9:17:10 AM
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"Yes, sometimes terminally ill people die awful deaths, and yes, it may be better *sometimes* to spare people prolonged and hopeless suffering," Clownfish says. You are making real progress, Clownfish.

I've watched three people who I loved die terrible deaths and I am determined that it won't happen to me.

What would really push this issue in the right direction would be if the relatives of each person who died a terrible, agonizing, slow death could sue those who are responsible for engaging in deliberate, pointless cruelty.

http://www.dangerouscreation.com
Posted by David G, Saturday, 2 October 2010 9:46:25 AM
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you have my respect...david

and i comprehend...your rejection of religeons
but not that of..the higher-power..living inside us all

sadly...the many religeons have decieved many away from love[grace/mercy/good..etc..

and/that we/all..are the embodyment..of the holy-spirit

i can agree/with..the many topics you/raise..at your blog

and have no doudt that in time..you will be recieving..the rewards/fruits...that come from..unselfishly..giving the aid and compassion..which/you clearly give freely..

but by the picture..at the head/of..your link
i note..your seeing only/half..of the bigger-picture

that has nought to/do with religeon..
yet much to do with our works

at this link
http://www.jhardaker.plus.com/pdf/

there is a pdf....
http://www.jhardaker.plus.com/pdf/The%20Gate%20of%20Heaven.pdf

in it early..is a picture...
[i couldnt/..but..compare/to..the one heading your link]

there is also another picture...here..[at this link]
http://www.jhardaker.plus.com/pdf/Gone%20West.pdf
[in chapter..viii..[a plan of the sopirit-realm]

i would post them..in reply to your's
but prefer..if you do...[its your blog]..
or not..its your call

i suggest your..clearly seeing/half the picture
they would look better..on one page

[in your case..
your clearly..headed..to this realm
http://www.jhardaker.plus.com/pdf/Through%20the%20Mists.pdf

i just thought..i should prepare you...
just in case

anyhow im going back...to read more of yours

will you try/to see...
the pictures at mine?

i would appriciate..your feed-back
anyhow cheers eh

your doing..of good works
despite your/not..doing it..to gain extra/points...

is regarded in high-esteem..in-deed...
thank-you for being you

cheers eh
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 2 October 2010 10:24:06 AM
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Nice try at applying a latte-sipper slur Clown- Wally would be proud of you.

But explain how there can even be an 'ivory tower' in this issue as opposed to a 'real world' from MY position?

Anyway, you should read up on the previous Euthanasia discussions and get back later- don't bother replying until you can actually quote one of the many answers to your silly strawmen.

Then again, you can even explain why the fictitious spook story you gave is worth the suffering of hundreds, maybe thousands of others in this country each year? Especially when I already told you there are easier ways to kill Grandma immediately and get away with it (if, for some reason the relatives can't bear waiting), and that the worst of this scenario is that Grandma felt pressured or obligated to off herself?

Also, check on some answers that address these as well, I advise a website called 'Google'.
Posted by King Hazza, Saturday, 2 October 2010 10:48:41 AM
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