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Gillard's conflict on euthanasia more than justified : Comments

By Jim Wallace, published 1/10/2010

No matter how you intellectualise euthanasia it will never be right.

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OUG. I thought you would find that a good laugh and well it was.smile.

One more thing before I go, How come the religious factions always runs for cover when god cant answer whats involved every-time when science questions becomes too hard for them to think?

I guess Its just easier that way.



Euthanasia will always be a hard emotion journey no matter what or who is involved. Because of what human is, the mission to end someone's life as I see it, almost impossible to even think it.

But when the shoe is on the other foot, the cries from the dieing will scream louder than our so-called humanity will let us.

A Rock and a very hard place it will always be.

All the best.

TTM
Posted by think than move, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 3:50:27 PM
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one under god, I have no intention of debating a religious cult devotee, your mind is lost in a superstitious, supernatural neurotic fantasy. You should have yourself checked, many religious fundamentalist have frontal lobe epilepsy, that's what causes those imaginary voices in your heads, its definatly not the excommunicated catholic priest paedophile exposer Mary MacKillop!
Read some history, if your cult allows you to read books, you know those things the Catholic cult banned and burned for a millennia, we are allowed to read and write now, make the most of it, while we still can? Lucky the surgeons don't have to dig up dead bodies from the cemetery for anatomy classes any more, isn't religion just revolting?
It must be terrible for you having a woman Prime Minister, less than a hundred years ago your cult would not have even allowed her a vote!
Posted by HFR, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 6:11:14 PM
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think/THEN-move..!

try reading
Posted by Loudmouth,..Tuesday,..5-October/2010..5:02:33..PM

THIS PERSON WROTE/..that i quoted

>>>>>>>>>....GET-IT?

so loud-mouth..>>>..consider..yourself rebutted..!

[by...thinking about moving/..then moving aberantly]

i see/sfa..has put his short-oar/
back..into..the deep-waters

QUOTE..<<..I have no/intention..of debating..a/religious-cult..devotee>>>i know..proof..is your weak-point

BUT PLEASE SUPPLY/..some proof...that/im..a cult/member

your in la/la-land..sunshine...
i dont belong-to..any organisation/group/nor society..FULL_STOP

i shall/use..your own-words..
right-back/at ya..[lol]

your mind is lost in a athiestic/delusion

your clearly/a...supernatural/neurotic..
living in a delusional..vacume/...errant/athiestic-fantasy.

You should/have yourself checked/and seriously/sit-and think
about why my faith//bothers---you/so

>>many ANTI-religious/fundamentalist's/have..NEO-cortex/disconnect
as well as delusions..of persicution-complex...that cause those imaginary voices..of..the athiestic-occult/percicution-complex..in your/head,

as/im NOT_IN ANY CULT..etc..your spurilous-errant/presumtion<<if your cult allows you to read books,>>..is yet again symptomatic..in sustaining your..athiestic/delusional/complex

your high/claim..<<we/are..allowed to read..and write now>>>dosnt alter/the fact..you self-censor..and only read..to cast stones/errant-slur..[as is clearly/reflected..in the limitations of/that you chose-write/about

the next/quote..reveales a further symptomology..of your athiestic/delusions..and some danger-signs..<<the surgeons don't have to dig up dead/bodies..from the cemetery..for anatomy classes/any more>>>

so/that..relates to euthinasia/topic..how....egsactly?

lets/furher/hit-you..with/your-own stick..

<<isn't>>..the athiestic-concept..
that approaches..being athiestic-religion..
just revolting..against the bleeding/obvious...
whats it to do with-you...?

WHAT..you afraid/of..?

god/is love..he forgives/you
i on the other hand...

dont care/much for..forgiving/igno-rants...
who should know better..than to comment..on that they deliberatly..refused to study..about..refuse/to even sek knowledge about

but yet again...your delusions..and casting of slur
yhat seemingly knows no bounds

quote<<It must/be..terrible for/you
having a woman Prime Minister,>>

mate..having met/her...
and corrosponding with..her-office regularilly...

mate..your just/in delusion/ville...{yet again]...lol
get/help-mate...

ps..watch/them..grave-robbing docters...lol..dont get-ya

please/note..
further..distorted/delusions...from sfa..deleted

please..can/we now

return...to topic..!
Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 9:18:09 PM
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back2topic...quote/from...the/gate-of heaven

<<in/the-treatment..of an/individual-soul..there is/no technical..
hard and fast-curriculum,..or..mechanical-procedure,..in God’s/great-university.

Each soul enters/having its-own..special-features/needs,environment,and requirements.

Every contributory-cause*..to its present/condition..is taken-into/analytical-account.

Sins/which are due-to...the father..are carried/over-to..the father’s account,>>
and/those decieved/away..from god..by athiestic decievers/shall be content-to/know
their decievers..get/the credit-too

<<and/receive..a corresponding-consideration..Not..a/stain..or taint is found
upon the soul..but{that/which}..is scrupulously..traced-back..to/its source,
in fulfilment..of the law..that..“Whatsoever a/man..soweth..that shall-he/also..reap,”


and..when the/righteous,..{correct}..result/is ascertained,..
then/the soul is dealt with.. with a view/to..securing..
its ultimate/atonement{at-one-meant}..with God.

It is/in such-an..adaptive/arrangement..as this
that the..Psalmist discovers/that..“The law of the Lord..
is perfect,..converting the soul”..(Ps. xix, 7).

We..who are/not-yet..perfected,
are/not..in a position to..know all/that this..implies;
but this..I do know

this one thing..I have seen..and spoken of/more than once already,
and I earnestly..commend it..to the notice of..every soul..who reads..these records:

In the judgment/passed..on the soul..as it steps..into the immortal
{as-it/steps back-into]..the righteousness..of God
stands prominent..as a surprising leniency,..

*we discover Justice to/be a compassionate-divinity,..and not/an..avenging fury.

If there-is..one fact/more deeply engraved..on my consciousness
than/another..by the revelations-of..this higher life,..it is this:

that God..has in/His mind..but one purpose/concerning..the whole family of man
..to love/him..with an everlasting love,..and with-loving-kindness
to draw him/back again..to the inheritance..he has forsaken..
through the machinations...{and/their errant-love}..of sin.

Can/there-be..a more pathetic..and yearning/declaration of this,
than is heard..in the invitation of/the Christ,
who speaks..as../the voice of..the Father:

“Come unto me,..all ye that labour..and are heavy-laden,
and I*will..give you rest!”..(Matt. xi, 28).

From/what a..babbel of confusion/the-world..would escape,
what a clearer..conception of God would dawn,
if,{by]..setting aside..the theological
..{thiestic/At-thiestic..}..dogmas..
and
unauthorized/interpretations,>>

cast so..ignorantly/..upon the masses
by both..opposing/doogmatic-creeds..decieved away from love
for no other reasoning..than idolitry..and selling of their errant selfishness

may god bless/those..serving the goods..of life..and living
upon..those only god sustains to living
that life/may find love

in/grace-mercy..

[the good/fruit's..of god..and love..of other
as much..as/we..can love..our-self and our/own]

let/your-works..be good-unto others
that ye do..to/for..the least..ye do-to..god
Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 10:54:23 PM
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think/THEN-move..!

try reading
Posted by Loudmouth,..Tuesday,..5-October/2010..5:02:33..PM

THIS PERSON WROTE/..that i quoted

>>>>>>>>>....GET-IT?

Sorry, your quite right and I enjoyed the read.

If the people of this world had read "all" that Ive said, it equals your words to a tee.
All that we see, is the human condition. No-one can take the religious out of the human, no-matter how hard they try. Can I give you some examples of what I mean.

When a person sees something horrid, You know the first thing that comes out of the mouth.........OH MY GOD. See! its all in us, the word.

When a person hits their finger with a hammer its, Jesus Christ that hurts.

When a person feels frighten and are in fear of death, "Oh please god NO, help me please. etc.

See its in us all and it cant be taken out just coz some-one says its not true, they all do say it every day.

Without the gods, the human race would not have made it this far.

OUG. When I first came to this site, there was fighting all over the place, and I took it upon myself to show the human condition and its complex systems.

Is there a god?

I don't know, and I always keep an open mind.

You maybe right, I don't know.

But what does mankind realty know? its nothing.

I have always been looking for the meaning of life, and my friend, I have not found it, yet!

So, I will keep on looking for it and some day, after death perhaps, I too will have to stand before god and tell him why I did not see.

I don't think god will hold me or scorn me too hard, I hope.

I have to face my own mortality one day as all will, Iam sure of that.



I think mankind should not question these things, but if one does not ask, one shall not find.


This is how it all started.

TTM
Posted by think than move, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 11:56:35 PM
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The scariest and most important thing about these frenzied up christian fundamentalists is that if they had been born in Iran or another islamic theocratic country they would be islamic fundamentalist demanding we have sharia law, totally opposed to the other religious cult. And we are expected to have to listen to and have respect their fantasies and superstitions, why?
Posted by HFR, Thursday, 7 October 2010 5:37:45 AM
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