Monsieur Poirot,

Oh yes, Hastings and the Argentine. Bueno hombre and los commaradaries.

I know, poor Sev - I was rotten wasn't I? Meaculpa again. It wasn't him, it was the butterfly that caught my eye.

Well if you are working class, do you despise yourself then?

Dear Constance,

Despite our penchant for the "mock joust". I am warming to you.

Let me say, that recognising that the working class are led by the nose in capitalist culture is not to "despise" them.
The are purposely deluded and brainwashed by the commercial media into fulfilling their many-faceted role in the pursuit of unending growth.
All the institutions that propel this state of affairs are responsible for keeping the working class in a state of "ignorant bliss" by saturating their lives with trinkets and hollow ideals.
Our system provides them with just enough education to take part in the economy, while simultaneously teaching them how "not" to think for themselves.
Humankind develops and progresses by individuals ruminating on their circumstances and taking their deliberations out into the world to share and to act upon. Unfortunately, in our system, we prefer to imbue to overflowing the minds of the working class with the shrill trumpet blasts of the market place. Amidst the clamour of modern capitalism, there is little room for contemplation and the sharing of innate wisdom and this impoverishes the human experience of this section of the populace in particular.
As I stated earlier in the thread, blaming the intellectuals is a simplistic reaction - the problem emanates from deep within the structure of our society.

Poirot, I think we are in the presence of a troll or a flamer (I believe that is the internet term).

Constance you are guilty of nothing but stirring the pot which is demonstrated by the bitterness and personal attacks in your posts.

I will leave you to your self-imposed misery and my wish is that you find some peace and contentment in your life... and I bid you all adieu until next we meet.

This is exactly why I wish my fellow Catholics would shut up and let their actions do the talking. Good actions, preferably.

Why not stir the pot and take a different angle? If you don't like different viewpoints, you'll never learn anything. You only don't like it because you are not even trying to understand. It's like the dialogues that I see George having to endure and having to consciously repeat himself because no-one is really listening. People entrenched with their own inflexible opinions. Personal attacks? I've already picked up on your own passive aggressiveness. I'm in no misery, Pelican - not at all. I don't know how you have perceived that - and are you without humour? Just having my say, with glee.

Otonoko, hard to act here on OLO. I always thought you were one of the more saner people here. We're not all the same you know. I myself come from a more unconventional side, and act accordingly to what I have already expressed.

Dear Monsier Poirot,

Sorry I'm late, but was away for the long weekend and as I said before, have trouble with keeping up with responses due to lack of time.

Well that's nice to hear that someone maybe warming to me. I know there is lots of inanity in society overall, and I think everyone no matter what class is effected. You seem to be so black and white. But you are still disparaging of the working class as if they have no values and you don't seem to see any diversity within them. I get tired of the pseudo intellectuals. Poiret, there are many Careerists - that is the problem. Just over the weekend, I read an article by another disgruntled (elder) Labor man, Rodney Cavalier in the SMH - a prophet in the wilderness so named. That's funny, I have mentioned that too - wilderness. He talks of what the Labor Party has become over the past 20 years. It has become only an individual Laborite self-serving political machine and nothing about values or vision for the party. I'm not working class myself and I don't know what bloody class I would fall into and don't care anyway. It's not just the working class who are in ignorant bliss. All I am saying is that the people should be heard. Why is it Howard's battlers? Labor has lost it.

You still have not responded to my comment on Julia. What class is she who does no self-educating and does not have much of a sense of culture, but only politics and previously very socialist. And where did she get that voice from? I think she's ignorant - for a start she has no idea of her voice. I also have a nickname for her, but won't mention it here, as judging from my responses they do not like naughty people, which is rather disappointing, everyone seems to take things so seriously, and themselves.

Cont/....