Apologies Houllie, I know you like to think you're the irony queen on OLO, that's why I thought you would've twigged when I mentioned Abbott and Pyne not attending Uni, that women don't want their partners involved with their kids and that Murdoch has no power.

All I can do is post the following Youtube (warning there are expletives) and maybe, THEN you'll get it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE1x5Xp8Azs

This guy is one of my fave characters on Youtube - great therapy.

(Guess I did not dig a big enough pit either)

Houllie

Severin has just given us all a licence to defend any hate-filled rant against women or utter misinterpretation of another's views as satire.

o sung wu,

"As a retired detective, I can assue you that culpability is equally divided between both"

The problem isn't who is at fault: it's what happens afterwards when one party gets the bill and access every fortnight while the other party gets to raise the child.

I'm also very sceptical with you being a fmr policeman. Police always assume it is the man at fault regardless of the evidence. Police are not even close to fair when it comes to domestic violence or allegations of abuse.

Lastly, I'm astounded at how gullible some people are on this thread. This woman had the presence of mind to evade international authorities and live on the run for a number of years but 'honestly' believed her husband was sexually assaulting their child? Seriously.

What is it with our society and our 'madonna complex'. We just can't seem to bring ourselves to admit that women can be vindictive.

Good evening 'DANE'...

You doubt that I was a copper ? Well, that's entirely your prerogative of course.

The two post's that I've lodged on this particular thread were NOT dealing in specifics. Rather in generalities. It's been my experience, blame can be apportioned equally in matters of family law.

It never ceases to amaze me how much venom and vitriol emerges in these matters. You state inter alia how cunning and vicious women can be ? And men aren't ? Violence is not only the exclusive preserve of males. I've personally witnessed some appalling injuries to men, occasioned by women.

DANE, neither sex is ever totally blameless. Very early on in the job, you quickly learn - there's her side, his side and the truth !

And your assertion, the coppers will always take the side of the woman, is conspicuous nonsense.

At a violent 'Domestic', the very first responsibility of the coppers, is the protection and preservation of life ! Irrespective, of who's to blame ! That often means removing the male person from the dwelling, until tempers cool, and appropriate measures can be introduced, in order that no further 'Breach of the Peace' occurs.

This strategy is standard police practice. Initiated to ensure, ALL occupants in the house, are adequately protected (often from themselves) should events therein, deteriorate any further.

I'm no academic, I have no degree/s, nor trained in Psychology et al.
But in over thirty two years in the job, you do tend to pick-up the odd clue or two, apropos human behaviour.

Cheers...Sung Wu.

Severin, if it helps, I found your 'satirical' comment above quite clever.
What amazes me is that even on a topic that started by praising a father who fought so hard to find his child, it is the men on this forum who have turned it around again to be a gender issue where females are found to be lacking, yet again.

Yawn.

O sungwu,< "G'day all & 'SEVERIN'"
Oh yes indeed, I can see you have learnt appropriate behaviours when dealing with someone you don't agree with- you YELL the name of the person who wrote the post several times during your post!

It is extremely giving, brave and wonderful for a former detective or law enforcement officer to contribute/post on issues that she/he has experienced over many years.

The fact that others do not bother stating or opening up about their own careers or backgrounds, in order for Australians to learn and gain an insight, is disappointing [Suzeonline and Severin excluded, as you both have been most giving].

I notice that it is often some posters who target and challenge other posters regarding their line of work or personal revelations, when at the same time guard their careers, backgrounds, family life and selves, out of fear. In other words, no 'giving and sharing' of experiences explained, based upon their work and life experiences.

I wish more people could be a little more giving and generally touch on their working backgrounds and lives as O Sung Wu, Severin and Suzeonline have done in the past.

In all fairness Suze, I have capitalised words when attempting to make a point on the odd occasion too; recently learned not to do it, as the odd person has misinterpreted as anger or aggression occasionally.

I, for one, am most grateful that you are contributing O Sung Wu, and have learned a great deal already from your postings.