Johnny "you forgot to mention that human females are the only primates to always have breasts" - no not forgotten, I'd never realised that.

It's my impression that Melinda works for a catholic organisation.
Someone I love very much is catholic and there is no way I'd want to get into a generalised bagging of catholics.

I do though have my doubts about men who have sworn off sex, intimate relationships etc and who in our culture wear dresses to work giving advice to others about relationships and sexuality or for that matter the views of a feminist who does appear to have a dislike of sexuality who also works for an organisation run by those men.

R0bert

No Vanna, I'm not prejudiced against Antiseptic, or against genuine debate.

I really didn't like those comments about Johnny Rotten's battle with cancer. I know everyone lets rip now and again, and that's all right, but you have to draw some lines in the sand.

Briar rose,

Glad to hear you are still on board.

These types of forums may be one of the few places left where someone can hear the other side of the story.

For example, you have spent considerable time in a university, yet you never knew about Tony Miller or the Girls Night In ads.

In the closed, narrow, femminist and bigoted environment of a university, you will only hear part of the story.

Houellebecq, Monday, 13 September 2010 12:09:54 PM

I agree totally with what you wrote.

Tankard, is always on message, promoting negative stereotypes, women as victims and men as perpetrators. Whilst she is critical about media stereotyping, she herself reinforces the very same stereotypes that she is sooo critical of.

<"The justification for political involvement and military force was framed in gender specific imagery with sexually violent overtones. “Playing on the allegorical representation of Liberty as a woman, Allied artists repeatedly depicted a female Belgium stripped to the waist, bound and violated . . .” (Gullace, Sexual Violence 16). It was this kind of propagandized imagery that stimulated and popularized the war effort. Many of the very same negative characterizations (of men) which had been waged in the “sex war” by the suffragists>

<The idea carries all the way back to ancient times and is evidenced by the comical yet poignant depiction put forth by Aristophanes in Lysistrata.>

So there is nothing new in Tankards tactic of negative stereotyping of men. This form of manipulation has been around for a long long time.

mi·sog·y·ny
[mi-soj-uh-nee, mahy-]
–noun
hatred, dislike, or mistrust of women.

Emotional projections. You am l.

<Projection can also be established as a means of obtaining or justifying certain actions that would normally be found atrocious or heinous. This often means projecting false accusations, information, etc. onto an individual for the sole purpose of maintaining a self-created illusion.>

Projection and transference often occur together.

<Transference is common. Only in a personally or socially harmful context can transference be described as a pathological issue. A modern, social-cognitive perspective on transference, uncovered by Dr. Susan Andersen at New York University, explains how it occurs in everyday life. When we encounter a person who reminds us of someone whom we do or did like and who is or was important to us, we infer, unconsciously, that this person is indeed like our significant other (whether a lover, friend, relative, or other person). Myriad effects arise from this, including inferring that traits belong to the new person that in fact belong to our significant other>

Misandry

is hatred (or contempt) of men or boys. Misandry comes from Greek misos "hatred") and andros "man").

Red herring is an idiomatic expression referring to a rhetorical tactic of diverting attention away from an item of significance.

thus labelling someone as being a misogynist, who tries to produce a counterarguement could be classified as a red herring.