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The Greens and democracy : Comments

By Dan Denning, published 6/9/2010

It isn't hard to build consensus when you exclude everyone who might disagree from your 'price on carbon' committee.

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Well this is offensive, but mostly it's just stupid.

Dan, a committee is a committee, it is not the Parliament. It recommends to Parilament. Democracy (such as it is) still operates in the Parliament.

You don't like listening to experts on global warming (the real ones, not the self-appointed ones)? Would you listen to experts on how to build a 747, or would you get in a plane designed by "ordinary people"? This is an anti-intellectual rant.

And no, you didn't make any credible link between the Greens and James Lee. You can tell the Greens are gaining in power (though they're still relatively minor players) because the hysteria level is rising. And please, the old furphy about a minority holding "the balance of power" being undemocratic - they only have influence if the major parties split. Nobody, on their own, holds a balance of power.
Posted by Geoff Davies, Monday, 6 September 2010 10:01:27 AM
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Dan, Norman Lindsay's The Magic Pudding is a better read - and just as close to reality.
Posted by colinsett, Monday, 6 September 2010 10:15:48 AM
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How unsurprising that OLO would publish a dumb article written by an industry shill that tries to link the Greens with a lunatic on the other side of the world.

Same old, same old. Nothing to see here.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Monday, 6 September 2010 10:19:09 AM
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oh the outrage, from the usual industry shills. Funny how it looks when you're on the receiving end.

good article and what most people think of the greens and their magic pudding view of the world. democracy is for other people, the greens know what needs to be done, hilarious.
Posted by Amicus, Monday, 6 September 2010 10:41:22 AM
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This is nonsense. A process of deciding the best machinery for a carbon price is exactly that. A process to decide whether or not there should be a carbon price is quite different, and the first doesn't preempt the second.

Just like a process to come up with a proposed machinery for a republic didn't preempt the process of deciding whether or not we should have a republic, if you recall.
Posted by jeremy, Monday, 6 September 2010 10:52:34 AM
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Here's Geoff Davies again, this time escribing this article as an "anti-intellectual rant". Well nobody would accuse you of being an intellectual, Geoff, so you have nothing to worry about.

Geoff's the bloke who thinks that the East Anglia climategate spivs have been "exonerated" by a phoney inquiry which took no evidence from anybody but the spivs themselves.

The global warming cult is now in full blown denial:

the surface temperature record has not been contaminated by unmitigated "adjustments" of the record, always upward

climategate didn't happen and if it did, it didn't mean what the perpetrators said it did in their own infamous emails;

democracy can't be trusted; we should "suspend democracy" to impose Green dictatorship because they know what's good for you

we need a "carbon price" to fix global warming - how that would happen is never explained

and despite the fact that more than 50 per cent of Australia's CO2 emissions are from coal-fired electricity generation and road transport (you know, Geoff, the trucks that distribute food to big cities?), the Greens and Labor are going to make EVERYTHING substantially more expensive than it is now - food and groceries, water, electricity, gas, public transport, private transport - EVERYTHING.

The creepy left in full flight. And so many of them seem to have infested the Australian National University.

How come you never mention real climate scientists, Geoff?

Try here: http://www.petitionproject.org
Posted by KenH, Monday, 6 September 2010 11:27:20 AM
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