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The Greens and democracy : Comments

By Dan Denning, published 6/9/2010

It isn't hard to build consensus when you exclude everyone who might disagree from your 'price on carbon' committee.

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For all of those fools who think the Greens are a "progressive party" concerned with primarily "enviromental issues", I attach an extract of the taxation policies from the Greens official policy. People should know what the Greens stand for before commenting or providing them with support.

The Australian Greens will

Taxation

22.reduce inequities in the current personal tax system by:
1)reducing tax breaks for high income earners;
2)removing Fringe Benefits Tax concessions
3)removing the concessional arrangements for Capital Gains Tax;
4)abolishing the 30% Private Health Insurance Rebate ;
5)introduce a new top marginal tax rate of 50 per cent

23.introduce an estate tax

26.implement a gradual and long term shift in the tax system from work based taxes to taxes on natural resources and pollution including:
1)a carbon tax levied on generators of mains-supplied electricity or gas
2)a national carbon trading scheme; and
3)other ecological taxes and charges at a level sufficient enough that their prices reflect the full environmental cost of their production, use or disposal.

29.return the company tax rate to 33% and broaden the company tax base by reducing tax concessions.

30.limit tax deductibility for salaries & salary-related expenses for any individual employee to $1million per year.
Posted by Angry Oak, Monday, 6 September 2010 1:50:21 PM
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Carbon is involved in everything that is produce and consumed. There is already a price on carbon. The problem is that the greens don't like it.
Posted by Jefferson, Monday, 6 September 2010 2:04:42 PM
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Does anyone seriously think that a parliamentary committee can't waste time just as effectively as a citizen's forum? All Gillard has to do is keep us out of doing anything foolish for another year or two. By then the AGW movement will have shrivelled away to James Hansen, Al Gore and "Gav", and we can quietly back out of it without anyone's reputation getting too badly mauled.

If the Greens think they can stop the collective Sir Humphreys of the Public Service from deliberating just as long as they find it expedient, they have a lot to learn.
Posted by Jon J, Monday, 6 September 2010 2:11:48 PM
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Why do so many people loathe Geoff Davies?

His book Economia is easily the best and most intelligent book written in Australia (and one of the best in the world) on the relation between our politics, economics and the environment.

And on the nature and function of the current monetary system. A system that systematically transfers all of the wealth to the already wealthy.A system that inevitably trashes both the planet and the best of human culture.

When the bottom line rules then everything inevitably gets flushed down the toilet.

Have you read the "news"?
Posted by Ho Hum, Monday, 6 September 2010 2:52:59 PM
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Angry Oak
You tories should probably stop listing the greens detailed policies as they actually look good to most people.
Stick to what you're good at. Scare campaigns about drugs and immigration and "great big new taxes" are the way your lot do it.

To the Author of this dribble of an article
Would you like me to point out some of the nutjobs on the right who have blown up buildings and sent bombs in the mail and much much more. How are they not just as connected to the libernats as this apparent psychopath is, according to you, connected to Australias Green party?

A vile and disturbing piece of wannabe propaganda that even fails at that sad duty and brings disrepute and dishonour to OLO for publishing it
Posted by mikk, Monday, 6 September 2010 2:53:04 PM
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Mik

You obviously doesn't run a business, or enjoy being left alone by Government.

And for the record, I'm not a TORY, I am someone who objects to socialist Governments after my grandfather died defending the freedoms that we are now on the cusp of losing.. you'll call this a scare campaign, so no need to write back.

By the way, you should try and limit the amount of times you finish a sentence with a preposition, it’s annoying. (or is defending the Queens English another "Tory evil".
Posted by Angry Oak, Monday, 6 September 2010 3:18:38 PM
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