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The Greens and democracy : Comments

By Dan Denning, published 6/9/2010

It isn't hard to build consensus when you exclude everyone who might disagree from your 'price on carbon' committee.

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In conclusion, it is obvious that under the above proposal, there would be a reduction in the revenue base with the high taxation contributors (people and companies) simply relocating inland thus stripping Tasmania of the revenue. Additionally, costs for the Tasmanian government would increase markedly, with an influx of welfare dependent people, pensioners and others, increasing the welfare costs significantly.

Now you might say, this is a ridiculous example because in this scenario it would obviously hurt tasmainia, given it has such a small population, and rest of the mainland has “company friendly laws” and does not have a price on carbon.

I just ask you to consider that Australia is an island, and relative to the world we have a very small population, the rest of the world does not have a price on carbon, and to adopt the Greens “taxation reform” would allow us to say that our major competitors have “company friendly laws”
Posted by Angry Oak, Thursday, 9 September 2010 11:10:39 AM
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Dear Ludwig
The problem with some Green policy is deception.
The Greens say they are opposed to a higher % of GST or extending it to other products (Item 25) BUT in the next breath say they will increase taxes on goods that have an environmental impact.(Item 26)
This potentially covers more than just petrol, power and water eg cigarettes, alcohol and disposable baby nappies, are all single use items that could attract the Greens 'environmental tax'.

But Mum's the word ......

Especially on disposable nappies which deserve to be highly taxed.
This product does not biodegrade and now that kids stay twelve months longer in nappies, the plastic fills up our dumps. The nappies that decompose are more expensive and have to be purchased online.

Perhaps, the Greens don't want to offend yummy mummy voters because they have a policy on plastic bags but no policy on baby nappies.

The Greens are deceptive about the estate tax. The really well off may escape this tax by purchasing property O/S and/or owning a multi million dollar family in Australia.

Those who will pay this estate tax will be the battlers, most of whom will have already sold their family home to fund their alzheimemer's high care accommodation. All that may be left are a few shares or cash or family treasures. After a stranger comes in and values your parent's treasures (none of which could be sold for the value it is given) your estate will pay a tax, then you divvy up their hard earned nest egg that was to help with the grand-kids education.

The Greens say the family farm will be exempt. But they do not define a family farm? Is it to be separate to the family home? Or could some estates have two properties exempt from this tax?

And this tax will be backdated to 2010. It's on their website....
Posted by WWG, Friday, 10 September 2010 5:24:36 PM
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