benk, I thought that Severin's response to your original vile comment was quite restrained. Your clear implication was that it's likely that Ms Fraser-Kirk is the type of woman who "rewards" sexual harrassment with sex, when there is absolutely no evidence anywhere that this is the case.

Why would you think that? Do you think that many women who have been raped really asked for it too?

Benk

>> You shouldn't feel a need to disagree with me on every occasion <<

I don't. I'd rather keep my communications with you to an absolute minimum. Your penchant for blaming women for the behaviour of men is as irksome as it is anachronistic. You condemn yourself with such utterances:

>> If she has ever enjoyed being pursed (sic) by a man who won't take no for an answer at any other time, then she too needs to learn to deal with the consequences of her actions. <<



Therefore, if I honestly disagree with you I will say so. Women not only have freedom of speech, we are also free to work outside the domestic sphere and one of us is actually running this country. Very naughty of her.

I doubt Julia would get much done covered from head to toe, confined to the kitchen, in order to avoid being pursued by some fool of a man.

Do I hear a sound? Must be the Dark Ages calling you back to your rightful era.

Severin: "Do I hear a sound? Must be the Dark Ages calling you back to your rightful era."

Haw! haha.

One of those, "I wish I'd said that!" moments :D

Benk: "Ms Fraser-Kirk has all of my sympathy if, and only if, she has never rewarded this type of assertive behaviour from men"

It's not "assertive" behaviour; it's harrassing behaviour. She didn't reward his behaviour with anything but "No." (twice).

How about a revolutionary idea where men take no for an answer.

If a woman decides she is interested, she can pursue the bloke who has signaled his interest.

Benk, maybe I could agree with your take on sexual harassment, and how you think women actually 'ask for it', if you also apply this same thinking if a man is sexually harassed at work?

This has happened at one of my workplaces in the past.
One of our female carers constantly referred to the size of our male nurse's crutch in a derogatory manner, and used to smack him on the backside at work. This male nurse reported the girl and she was eventually sacked.

Should this male nurse have taken the blame for this if he had ever laughed or smiled at a female coworker who did something similar?
What if it was a male sexually harassing another male?

We all feel more attracted to, or more comfortable with, some members of the opposite sex as opposed to others. That's just human nature.

If we laugh off one person, but take offence at another, then you can't help how you feel can you?

For the CEO to go so fast suggests that the complaint that triggered it was just the tip of the iceberg. I once worked in an organisation which recruited a senior manager from another state. It became clear very fast that he was a serial harasser - cautionary tales certainly passed through the female staff very quickly, but it took a couple of years before someone made a formal complaint. He went, but the complainant also lost her job, on unrelated grounds (which I thought were spurious). Then we heard that the same thing had happened in his previous job; our organisation clearly hadn't done due diligence when they hired him. I would not be surprised if the DJ situation was similar.

CJ

I don’t pretend to know Ms Fraser-Kirk and suspect that you don’t either. I never made any guess as to how likely it is that she has rewarded assertive behaviour with sex on other occasions, merely raised the possibility. If and only if this is the case, she needs to take responsibility for fixing a problem that she has helped to create. You seem to have as much trouble understanding a simple argument as Severin.

Severin

Of course you have freedom to express opinions. That doesn’t mean that you can make absolutely any statement without anyone disagreeing with you. You maliciously misinterpreted my statement and I had every right to complain. Suggesting that I have a problem with Julia Gillard running the country is also unfair. I have never suggested that women in power bothers me.
I cannot hear any sound. It may be that you are in the dark ages when men were expected to rescue women from all of their problems.