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By Tanveer Ahmed, published 23/6/2010There is no question that racial prejudice exists in Australia. These feelings are symptoms of a universal human failing.
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Posted by ALGOREisRICH, Thursday, 24 June 2010 9:17:55 PM
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Amicus <"As long as they get "special treatment" for being or claiming to be aboriginal, they are under a racist system."
Can you list for me the 'special treatment' you think Aboriginals receive Amicus? If they do get any special treatment, then it sure isn't helping the bulk of them is it? Aboriginals in Australia have a life expectancy 17 years less than other Australians. For all age groups of Australian people under 65 years of age, Aboriginals are twice as likely to die than others. Aboriginal babies are twice as likely to be of a low birthweight than others, and three times more likely to die in infancy. Chronic diseases, communicable diseases, mental health problems, and disabilities are all significantly higher amongst Aboriginal people than any other Australians. They are far less likely than other Australians to own their own home or car, or to be in employment. They are over represented in jails and are far more likely to be homeless. Yep, it sure sounds like they are doing famously with all this special treatment doesn't it? Gee I hope the rest of us get it as good as they do soon..... Posted by suzeonline, Thursday, 24 June 2010 11:51:55 PM
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At least Amicus is honest, I suppose. It has always struck me that economic immigrants to Australia are often among those Australians who are least sympathetic to Indigenous people in their adopted home, despite the fact that contemporary Australia was built entirely on the dispossession of Aboriginal people from their land and their relegation to the fringes of Australian society. Every non-Indigenous Australian is the beneficiary of that sorry history of brutality and discrimination, whether or not they recognise it.
While there has been some improvement since about the 1970s, no amount of well-intentioned government policy and legislation has had much of a positive effect on the lives of Indigenous Australians, who still cop the brunt of racism against them - most graphically in the kinds of demographic and health statistics to which suzeonline referred. Without the expropriation of Aboriginal lands and the relegation of Indigenous people to the status of an underclass in the society that subsequently and relatively recently developed, economic immigrants like Amicus would not have an "Australia" to emigrate to. I think that the bigotry they express is a way of avoiding acknowledging that they are the beneficiaries of gross injustice and some of the most blatantly racist acts in modern history. Posted by CJ Morgan, Friday, 25 June 2010 8:14:35 AM
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Suze of course they get special treatment, even an intervention, special laws a separate government department ,.. I could go on but we both know you know exactly what I mean.
Of course it doesn't do them any good, so why do you all bristle up and defend this appalling racist system. Get rid of the government department and all the laws and entitlements that separate them from the rest of Australia. Clearly the paternal method of babying them does nothing. You seem to have a big dose of shoot the messenger Suze .. all I'm doing is pointing out the obvious, however distasteful it is to teary liberal bleeding hearts who would prefer the aboriginals to be kept in some sort of primitive almost zoo like state. Nothing at all in your past has worked, so try the one thing you have to tried - assimilate them immediately and with out delay, no payouts, no compensation just the normal life responsibility and ownership of your own future everyone else in Australia has. Posted by Amicus, Friday, 25 June 2010 12:07:44 PM
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What gets me is the assumption people commonly make that "racism" [insert definition here] is always automatically a bad thing. I for one vehemently reject this assumption. It is perfectly NATURAL human behaviour for people to prefer their own ethno-culture to others as it is natural for us to be suspicious of people that don't share our ancestory, language, values and culture.
According to the politically correct ethic, white people are always the perpetrators of "racism" and never the victims of it. And Tanveer Ahmed simply reinforces that in his article. In the modern politically correct world, the ethic of anti-racism is effectively used to systematically whack white people over the head with if they dare to have anything other than a highly favourable attitude towards ethnic minorities. Hence there's some absurd expectation that white people are somehow morally obligated to be highly accepting and favourable in attitudes towards non-white minorities. According to this ethic, white people must never judge negatively or criticise, or mock, or make fun of, or abuse or speak out against ethnic minorities. If we do, we are apparently commiting some heinous moral sin! Such an ethic is in reality an absurdity that runs completely contrary to the group interests of white people. At a time when our race faces a demographic genocide it has never before seen in history, it is an ethic that should be thoroughly rejected. It is not logical, nor is it just or reasonable for society to effectively put ethnic minorities on such a pedestal. THEY ARE SIMPLY NOT THAT PRECIOUS. I submit that anti-racism is a pseudo morality espoused by people who don't understand human nature and who haven't learned to think for themselves. It is high time white people stopped allowing themselves to be intimidated by the term "racism" or "racist". Our very racial survival depends on it. Posted by gytre, Saturday, 26 June 2010 12:06:41 PM
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Those of you who thought that the
previous website that I gave by Dr Eva Sallis was purely "Media Spin," should take a read of the following: http://www.safecom.org.au/myths.htm And - http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2001/s417232.htm Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 26 June 2010 7:31:53 PM
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You can be my standby therapist when I'm emotionally bleeding from the bites and scratches of CJ and Pericles :)
Seriously.. glad ur here.. a fresh name and a fresh personality.
Oh..ur a TRADY? :) Then (if you've watched Frazier) you will be driving a new E class Merc right ? haha.. there was this episode where Niles tries to name drop to the plumber with his bum crack hanging out... "Oh.. I'll just go down to the car park..it's in my 7 series beamer"...the plumber replies casually "Oh.. I used to have one of them..then I traded up to an E series" or something like that.
I love that show.
WHITE POWER STRUCTURES.. the thing I find most repulsive about these various attempts to undermine them..is that until I saw this kind of stuff I had no 'white' consciousness.. I just had 'human' consciousness. Now..... it seems I'm part of this 'white' privileged 'race' which must be destroyed at all costs by all means.
The man who wrote that article, ironically, is Jewish. (But also a marxist)
AMICUS.. exactly (all you said) but beware mate.. you will be quickly lumped into the 'fundy, fringe hatemongering christian'mob by a couple of beloved OLO contrubutors here :) (even though you might or might not be a man of faith)
NEWBIES.
For those who are new here.. for full on entertainment value.. keep your eye on any post by GINX.. she is a colorful character...witty and sharp tongued. Severin (fractelle) of course.....GINXs mini me.. has not yet gone completely to the dark side :) (they both hate my guts :)
If you see my nick.. Ginx or Serverin might be close by..But if you like intellectual, well structured bile.. look at Pericles, a lovable character, though a tad irrational (hmm no.. VERY irrational) at times. He delights in tearing down a posters argument..does a good job sometimes and can be quite informative.