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By Tanveer Ahmed, published 23/6/2010There is no question that racial prejudice exists in Australia. These feelings are symptoms of a universal human failing.
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Posted by socratease, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 1:00:07 PM
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Banjo, Firstly I'm wondering where in my post I mentioned racism.
Secondly, you might like to check THIS out, on the website of Australia's Parliamentary Library: http://www.aph.gov.au/Library/pubs/BN/sp/AsylumFacts.pdf If you could try to open your mind to facts which contradict your current mindset, that would be a great leap forward, especially when you read this as early as page 3: Quote: Asylum seekers irrespective of their mode of arrival, like others that arrive in Australia without a valid visa, are classified by Australian law to be ‘unlawful non-citizens’. However, the term ‘unlawful’ does not mean that asylum seekers have committed a criminal offence. There is no offence under Australian law that criminalises the act of arriving in Australia or the seeking of asylum without a valid visa. Unquote Let's run that through again, shall we, for the slow learners: "There is NO offence in Australian law that criminalises the act of arriving in Australia or the seeking of asylum without a valid visa". If you can bring yourself to read the rest of the 18 pages, you might learn a lot more. Then again, given the track record, perhaps not. Posted by Slobodon Meshirtfront, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 2:39:08 PM
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Slobodom,
Unlawful means illegal. These people are acting illegally. i.e. contrary to our law. If you look up the UN site about asylum seekers , you will find that they state that asylum seekers do NOT have right to enter a country illegally. They must comply with a countries laws. Because we are good blokes and more than reasonable we have undertaken not to charge people with an offence IF they claim asylum. But they remain as illegal entrants until we decide to a) grant them asylum or b) deny them entry and deport them. The only reason we can detain people is if they do not have a valid visa. You want to avoid the word illegal because you want to promote them as being poor, innocent sods who are homeless, which is crap. They have flown to Malaysia for which they need a passport, either genuine or bought on black market, them pay smugglers far more than the cost of air fare to Aus to enter over the back fence. Then destroy any documentation enroute and proceed to tell lies to our officials. They are not people of good moral standing. The young men should be home helping to fix their problems instead of our young men fighting for them. No they come here to hide. Posted by Banjo, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 3:40:52 PM
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Muslims would advantage their acceptability within Australia, if they renounced terrorism rather than excusing it.
The last thing tolerant Australia needs is to import intolerance. Two examples - the intolerance some Muslims have of other Muslims, as per http://www.middleeasttransparent.com/spip.php?page=article&id_article=10110&lang=en and - the intolerance of some Australian Muslims towards apostate Muslims, as per http://www.hizb-australia.org/hizbut-tahrir/draft-constitution (article 7c) Racial prejudice is completely unacceptable. Deep concern about some religious behaviour is not unreasonable. Posted by elizabeth4, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 3:54:50 PM
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http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=10583#174615
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=10583#174590 Slobodon, typical, xenophobic, racist, bigoted, hate speech. The Loony, Left, hate, loathe & despise white people. Do Australia a favour, go back to Yugoslavia & take all the Muslims with you. Here's a history lesson for you, Multiculturalism was invented by CARS, Communist, Anarchist, Radical, Socialists to "white ant" Capitalism from within. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8630135369495797236# http://www.acrawsa.org.au/ http://www.politicalislam.com/tears/pages/tears-of-jihad/ http://www.fatimaperspectives.com/cs/perspective235.asp http://www.cruelhoax.ca/#top What Australia desperately needs right now is for all of the asylum seekers to be deported immediately, so that immigration detention centres like "Curtin & Baxter", can be re-used as Re-Education camps for all the CARS who have infected the Red/green/getup/labour coalition. http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=10583#174594 tonyf, please explain, but Pauline got 49% of the 1st preference votes in what was considered to be one of the safest, blue collar, ALP seats in the country. Add to that the number of people who silently agreed with her but remained faithful & voted #1 for liberal, labour, national, etc, & the number of voters who were really on her side, adds up to at least 60% to 80% of the population. Your extreme views represent between 1% & 4% of the vote. Hopefully ASIO will be dealing with your kind soon. Posted by Formersnag, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 4:04:25 PM
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A very good article that triggers the usual reaction in this country. Aussie just can't stand to have there prejudice pointed out to them. At heart i am more inclined to say through the years i have come to see it more as ignorance or bigotry.
For some reason we just can not accept that the way we have treated the indigenous peoples of this country over the past 200+ years is appalling. You can use all the justifications you like but we did what we did and continue to be intolerant of the cultural differences. White Australians will often laugh at a rasist joke about black peoples or happily forward an email without thinking or considering the way they are actually helping to spread hate and ignorance through the community for the real racists. This extends to many cultures that are different to our own. Yes, well you might say we give the "POMS" heaps and they take it well but here inlies the big difference. Giving the Yanks or poms or for that matter most European countries a razz is less problematic as they were on the whole also part of the systematic oppression and destruction of indigenous cultures around the world. For one moment consider what the Spanish did to South America, the British and French to North America and Arabia as well as the many countries involved in Africa. These betrayals on the whole are barely a generation old in many cases and the hurt runs deep. If Croatia and Serbia can't forgive over things that happened hundreds of years ago why should white European's be forgiven for things that only began to resolve 50 years ago. We need to take on some serious self analysis of our actions and attitudes. Racism may not be the motivation but we are susceptible to the fear of the unknown within our society and resist the possibility that some of the problems we have with integration and social change in this country lay with us. Posted by nairbe, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 5:54:21 PM
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You are so right.
We definitely DO NOT WANT to be blown apart by bombs these people have used inthe past. They have no sense of gratitude or want to make Australia their new home. They are part of their covert war against the infidels.They wont stop until they have destroyed us and taken possession of what remains.
Dont believe me? them go and listen to the openly voiced declarations of their imams. Even the failed would-be New York bomber defiantly said it was all about war. When asked by the presiding judge wasnt he concerned about the loss of life of innocent children and women replied very honestly and forthrightly:This is war." Full marks to him for his honestly, and honestly, none of us want the insides of our children and aged ones splattered all over the streets.What can we do to save ourselves? Should we all love them and forgive them their blood-lust?
You can. I for one cant stand them.
If you say all arent like them. Some are innocent and opposed to their bigoted hatred. OK that's fine. These peace-loving Muslims should stand with us shoulder to shoulder and even share our outrage and prejudce against those who would take our lives.
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