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By Michael Zimmerman, published 31/5/2010The teachings of most mainstream religions are consistent with evolution.
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Posted by one under god, Saturday, 10 July 2010 1:56:51 PM
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maybe its time you got educated
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=keiser+report+rt&aq=f http://www.divinetruth.info/Downloads/CD/NaturalLove/PDFs/Franchezzo%20-%20A%20Wanderer%20In%20The%20Spirit%20Lands.pdf http://www.divinetruth.info/Downloads/CD/NaturalLove/PDFs/Anthony%20Borgia%20-%20Life%20In%20The%20World%20Unseen.pdf http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/ee http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=rebutting+evolution&aq=f&aqi=g-sx7g-msx3&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= http://www.divinetruth.info/naturallovepathdocuments.htm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSuewxm7ER8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jlw5P-D8tH0&playnext_from=TL&videos=ETbq_5GnJN4 Posted by one under god, Saturday, 10 July 2010 2:08:38 PM
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OUG.
"further they are ways/means...not the end result...in the end both paths shall lead to god" Thats a very bold statement, how do you know this? Can you show me evidence? Wouldn't it be fair to say,that whats going on around the world.... that this would of angered your god, and all by now, should have been destroyed with you I might add, so since your GOD is the only true deity and all else ( other faiths and religions ) and don't say, hes coming soon, cause that would mean he is not here at this moment. ( holidays perhaps or just watching the planet and all that he had( purposely made) go down the drain. He sounds like a bully to me. So much about religion that doesn't add up, but Iam sure it does you, that's why believing in something you can see, can only make a sounder mind. Sorry UOG, too many people kill for it, and this is a fact you cant dismiss. TTM Posted by think than move, Saturday, 10 July 2010 3:36:32 PM
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http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_does_Islam_religion_always_teach_people_to_kill_innocent_lifehttp://www.evilbible.com/http://www.centerforinquiry.net/blogs//atheism_doesnt_kill_people_fanaticism_kills_people/http://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis/uni-verse/37916-can-religion-science-work-together
But as Ron Howard said, we might have to except that in time the two may ever work together as you do, but what ever happens with these crazy humans, I know one thing........... ...............the world will have to wake up sooner or later and the world as one as I go on about...................it might be in all our best interests to change some of our practices on all fronts. Live well UOG. TTM Posted by think than move, Saturday, 10 July 2010 4:10:45 PM
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i will try..dear/ttm...
i would enjoy your explaining flowers/evolution... here is some/to begin with... <<..Evolutionary history of plants#.. Evolution of flowers/..Archaefructus liaoningensis,..one of the earliest known flowering plants>>what did it..'evolve'/from/into[give evidences <<..land plants have existed..for about 425 million years>>[what mutations/did what/when.., <<..Early seed-bearing plants/include the ginkgo and conifers...>>>join their evolution/...provide dna evidences/name names <<The earliest fossil..of a flowering plant,..Archaefructus liaoningensis,..is dated about 125 million years old..>>why evolve flowers...if they clearly wernt an advantage [what of the insects.needed to polinate...or needing/SPECIFIC.symbiotic plants/fruits...to reprouce/ or plants...NEEDING SPECIFIC INSECTS...to fertilise..etc <<..Several groups of extinct gymnosperms,/particularly seed ferns,..have been proposed*..}...LOL...{as the ancestors of flowering plants...*but*..there is no continuous..fossil evidence/showing exactly how*..flowers evolved.>>>LOL <<The apparently/sudden appearance/of relatively modern flowers..in the fossil record..posed such a problem..for the theory of evolution that it was called..an "abominable mystery"..by Charles Darwin.>> SO..IT WOULD BE GREAT..IF YOU COULD EXPLAIN! PLEASE GIVE YOUR EVIDENCES...! SPECIFICLY...*! on/the other/..matters... why would god be angry..[he knows energy/;spirit...cant be created..NOR DESTROYED]...and has a better plan...for ALL OF US..[in the heavenly realms of spirit...in the hereafter]...you may rest assured of this... further/you confuse the son/with the father further..you/believe..in the wrong/form of god..[god is all/ALL living/loving]...HE dosnt judge us...indeed..it is HE ALONE/al-one...who loves us all... for proof see...he/is..[sustaining to live..EVEN the MOST VILE].. even the most evil/he sustains to life..! so you see..your being decieved..by those decieved.. [the blind...leading the blind]... eg...GOD...sustains...all living/... god is the LIFE_GIVER...no death..serves the life-giver [they are/as decieved...as thee..! [but by freewill/good/god/..lets those/who would be decieved...be decieved...till...in the end...they seek to redeem...repent/their vile-ways..[of THEIR..own/freewill..!] indeed more shall be given..but first.. lets hear..your..theory/of the evolution..of FLOWERS go on give it a try [realising..they are only..about as old/..as we are!] in..so called/evolutionary term/s...lol Posted by one under god, Saturday, 10 July 2010 9:59:04 PM
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unifying..the spirit/and/evolution..of flowers..[part1]..
i thought/to begin..with strongs/concordance/page 237/238...but the web search..for it..is confounded... http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=strongs+concordance+flowers&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= thus/must laboriously..handsribe/..those/regferances..of most particular relivance.../under posting limitations/..lol...but will finish/this first page/with a quote.. from the search/filled with destraction's http://biblecommenter.com/genesis/1-1.htm and ...<<..for..the confirmation/of its truths and laws:..it would be an intolerable reproach..to eternal Truth,..[god]..to suppose his divine seal/..affixed..to a lie. Beside/this,/..to the more wise and thinking,/..to the more considerate and contemplative..it recommends itself..by those innate/excellences..which/are..self-evident characteristics/of its divine original...[to wit the bloom/flowers/fruits..etc] If..we look carefully,..we shall...soon..be aware/of God's image..and superscription upon it/all... A mind..rightly disposed/by a humble,..sincere subjection..to its Maker,..will easily discover...the image of God's wisdom..in the lawful depth..of its mysteries;..[i could use some help here] ..the image..of his/sovereignty/in the commanding majesty..of its style;..the image of his unity..in the wonderful harmony and symmetry of all its parts;[flowers/doing..their fruits] flowers/not followers..refl;ecting/the image..of his holiness/..in the unspotted purity..of his precepts;..and the image of his goodness/..reflective/in the manifest/tendency of the whole.. to the welfare..and happiness..of mankind/ and gods creation..'s'..in all his realms/..worlds; ..in short,..it is..a work/.. that fathers/itself...And..as atheists,..so/too..deists, ..notwithstanding/their vain-glorious pretensions..to reason,..as if wisdom/must die..with them,..who thus/..run themselves upon..the grossest..and most dishonourable/..absurdities imaginable;..>> <<let a man/..be ever so..desirous and solicitous..to do/his Maker's will,..he must,/without remedy,..perish..in the ignorance of it,..since there is no book/..that will undertake to tell him/what it is,>>[in its totality/completness...of..spirit AND materiality] <<..a consequence/..which/can/..by no means be reconciled..to the idea/revealed/..that..we have/..of the divine goodness...And..(which is no less...an absurdity),..if the scriptures..be not really/..a divine revelation,..they are certainly..as great a cheat..as ever was put upon the world:>> but..it seems/the strongs-concordance/CHEAT...isnt working-out-4me/lol thus hand list/the parts..i would refer to...[flower/referances..strongs...job..14;2..15;33...ps,103;15..crudins/concordance/flower..ex/25;33..37;19,isa..40;6...just as/a beginning/base then expanding into the plural/flowers..strongs..ex 25'31..lev 15;33,..1king..7;49..2 chr..4;21..songs..2;12...crudens/concordance referances..ex 25;33..lev15;24..num 8;4,..1kin..6;18,29,32,35/7;26/49 s/ofs..2;12 i was going to expand/the topic..into fruits..but cant be botherd..the spirit side..concludes/for now with/some pages from/previous-link/pages 70...onwards..and scattered referances in/its..preceeding pages http://www.divinetruth.info/Downloads/CD/NaturalLove/PDFs/Anthony%20Borgia%20-%20Life%20In%20The%20World%20Unseen.pdf lets wait/and see/..what you bring to the table...re evolution of flowers... it shouldnt be too hard..they just re-thought..the whole sceme...400 years of evolving delusion/but recently..RE-SORTED..lol..[seems dna/testing...changed much/of what science thought/true..taught..AS-IF/true]yet wasnt...lol.. but lets..give it a go eh? sorting/the tares..from the wheat it began with an..apple/flower? Posted by one under god, Sunday, 11 July 2010 8:10:49 AM
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further they are ways/means...not the end result...in the end both paths shall lead to god
you claim science..but science cannot claim you.in the end...carbon dating dont work past less than 100,000 years...and radio dationg only works/within a narrow field[mainly volcanic emmisions...thus any 'dating'..claiming science is flawed
your referance...talks of species...not species within genus classification...no change of genus has been recorded nor observed..so your ph-issing in the wind.my friend
..<,4 percent difference/between human and chimpanzee DNA,>>.is still in excess of 5000 mutations...then the so0 called FRAUD/lucy...and your other MISSING links[humans are only a recent..'mutation'[if mutations plural they be]..[less than 80,000 years or so is the theory...YET APES...unchanged...go back millions
[we share over 50 percent of our dna/..with a bannana...this might explain why many are vegetables..with regard to science METHEOD/and explain the absence of any faulsifayable evidence...either in the record/or in these pages
your 'evidence'...<<and studies/documenting the splits..in species of birds,..fish and caterpillars.>>>..is not followed by the proof[besides i note the COMPLETE avoidence of mammals]...in your few words
you are free to whore-ship the earth..[it wont love you back]..you gullably parrot the line of global extinction/and no doudt favour a nice big new tax on carbon...
despite the evidence man/made..global warming is a lie...but its sold to us via the same lying media...
and the same lying scientists..that told us..we would die from sars/bird/swine/flue..
...santa claws/easterbunny..satan..and evil-ution
but worse some judgmental godhead...
and a delusion of the end/time..jude-meant day