david has doudts as to what is true...and what truth...'may'..be

TAC..<<I don't see/one set of truths..cancelling out the other>>


david says<<Dear TAC,You misuse the word,/truth.>>

TAC..says<<..as one evangleical apologist/pointed out:.."how can truth disprove truth""?>>>while i can hardly agree with the statement...clearly...tac didnt say it

david says<<The Bible is not truth/but religious belief.>>>thats casting rather a loose/noose...please point out where the two bookd[bi-=2../ble=books]..where both books are untrue

in affect your calling the writers...witnessing/recording the christs deeds/works/words/the last testimant..liers?

your calling the various..messengers/proffits..translators...liers?

cant you see that these/men...of honour...both in their time...and these more recent tiimes..LIEREs...at least see what the true/import of your words implies

the bible/records..that they believed true...in lue of proof..of them lying...throeing a broad-brush..upon all the religious texts..mate thats provocative...that NEEDS EVIDENSE

you state clearly...your opinion...lol...that<<<'It is no more a book of truth than the Koran,/Tripitaka or other scripture.>>>thus please supply your evidence

you claim<<It is a book of legends>>>but then after selectivly/returning to the 2 books....lol...state<<<some of which may have a factual basis>>.refuting your own words

it seems the words in the koran...must have some semblance of truth,,,for in it it is written...[god confuses who he will'...]

your striking out blindly...[beloved/micheal]..letting hate/fear/bias...absolutism/pride...come before common sense...as well as common courtesy

you make bold/generalisations..that demand proof
i would ask you to present your evidence

AS WELL AS PRESENT YA FAULSIFYABLES
but its clear you dont got none
ya only got opinion

its not bad enough..you reject the all living/all loving..good/god
you also reject as being true...those messengers god favoured

i feel so sad...my beloved
that one normally...so precice
should speak..into word...so mindless a recording into word

TAC,

I would suspect that most Christian schools would teach Genesis on the basis that it is a story and concentrate on its purpose to explain the special relationship between a god and its creation. Maybe not to much information on allegory would porvided to the young. What would be important with Evolution is to explain the process and assumptions and the conclusions that are tentatively held, yet, strongly validated and reliable.

I agree wih david f that the Bible is an important book on many fronts: e.g., literary and antropological value. It is a dyndamic works. Take the story Noah in the OT: In the first century of the current era, the story was re-written with a greater emphasis on the Jewish calendar (and harmonising with Roman calendar) and lesser mention of the animals. This account didn't make into the Nicaean collection works.

Science and religion treat doubt differently. Scientists recalibrate their thinking in the presence doubt, while doubting in the face of contrary evidenc is a "test of faith" for the theist.

What a Messiah meant before the Roman-Jewish Wars was different to the situation which evolved (ahem) afterwards. Contrast this Darwin, we certainly he didn't point his finger on everything, but the basic tenets stand up very well.

Dear OUG,

You have referred to me and addressed me in your post. I am sorry, but I don't feel any reasonable discussion with you is possible.

Best wishes,

OUG,

What I was saying if one tries to hold a detatched view of the researcher in an experiment while feeling that the expereimenter can't be fully detached, the presence of the experimenter, in theory or diminiutive practice, the subject/locus does no reflect a fully detatched environment and is therefore contaminated.

I was suprised by the links you presented and hope that you are drawn into them. What has happened to the Jews (and the Poles)in history is terrible.

OUG,

I was suprised by the links you presented and hope that you are "NOT", repeat, "NOT" drawn into them. What has happened to the Jews (and the Poles)in history is terrible.

All,

Please a excuse my tendency to leave words out as my typing and thinking are not well co-ordinated. Also, I am usually, toggling between OLO and something else I am working on

One Under God,
As much as I have difficulty following the flow of where you are going, I do agree with the one point that you keep repeating, that is, where are the falsifiables? The evolutionists on this thread claim that their view is reasonable in the sense of being falsifiable, but they haven’t come up with anything yet.