david...quote,,<<...difference/with other scientists..there/are mechanisms/which/resolve..the conflict/...lol..and determine/which views...lol..are accepted.>>>lol

like peers..that decalred flat/earth..or peers/that determined/con-sensus...that the universe/revolved arround ..the earth

how easy to forget...how easy..to declare...science..
of evolution..of genus..yet not present..faulsifyables...lol

anyhow;..here is some..'differences'..for re-solution
from
http://creation.com/does-homology-provide-evidence-of-evolutionary-naturalism

<<..Belief/in evolutionism/..requires a credulity../..induced partly by/pressure..to conform..to a world of science>>..to wit/peer-presure

peers..who/deem..inteligent-design..a non-topic

<<<..A review/of the literature/..on homology...>>
that underpins/evolution...species/evolving..from genus..as measured..by like trait..inducing;..like trait..YET..VIA DIVERGENT MECHANISM...lol

..<<indicates that the theory...>>!
..<<does not provide evidence>>..for evolutionary/naturalism..
despite/..being loaded with..terms..like natural/lol/selection...

...DAVID/quote..<<There is no/serious-scientific..disagreement>>lol

reply..<<..The comparative/anatomy/argument..fails completely..when an attempt is made..to trace;..all living forms of life..(and even fossils)..back to/their..postulated;..universal common ancestor's).>>lol

<<Few skeleton,muscle/and brain..counterparts/exist..in single-celled animals..(or..in many developmental-stages..afterward).

<<No biological/..or..logical requirement/exists..to vary the design of bones,..muscles and nerves needlessly../..in every living form../beyond..what is necessary..to adapt/..the animal to its environment.>>

<<with evolution/..although there are/differences/..in regard to details...>>..the mechanism...by which they result...are divergent/

meaning..they come via different..means...
thus cannot be linked..back to some/..mythical ancestor

PLEASE DO READ/..THE LINK..IN FULL
you just might,..,get/..what it is revealing

<<<..One problem with/..the convergent/evolution-hypothesis..is that it requires..'reinvention..of the wheel'..scores/..or even/..hundreds of times.

The eye..is hypothesized/..to have evolved/independently..as many as 60..different times.>>each via..differing mechanism's

<<One major problem/..is that/in many cases..organs and structures/..which appear identical..(or very similar)..in different animals/..do not develop..from the same structure/..or group of embryo cells.

It is not uncommon/..to find fundamental structures..(e.g. the alimentary canal)..that form from different;..embryological-tissues/..in different animals.

For example,/..in sharks..the alimentary-canal/..is formed from the roof/of the embryonic-gut/cavity;..in frogs..it is formed from the gut-roof..and floor;

and in birds/and/reptiles..it is formed..from the lower-layer..of the embryonic-disc/or blastoderm.

..<<..vertebrate forelimbs../referred to by Darwin..(and cited/in hundreds of textbooks/..as proof for evolution)..has now/turned out to be flawed/..as an example of homology.>>

<<The reason is/that the forelimbs/..often develop from different body segments..in different/species..in a pattern/..that cannot be explained by linked/evolution.

The forelimbs..in the newt/..develop from trunk/segments 2 through 5;..
..in the lizard..they develop from trunk segments 6 to 9;
..in humans they develop/..from trunk segments 13 through 18

WAKE UP FOLKS..read/..rebut/
OR..present/faulsifyables

publish/or..perish

Dear OUG,

AS you well know, Genus sits inside a classification scheme, which is open to interpretation, with regards its delimiters. That does not mean classified entity has no relationship with other classified entities. Its like asking if Pluto is a planet or a planetoid. Either way, Pluto was formed within the Solar System.

Yet, with regards species:

DNA suggests that HIV-1A, HIV-B and HIV-2 evolved from a common ancestor.HIV-1A and HIV-B can reproduce with each other; yet, no HIV-1n is known to reproduce with HIV-2. One possibly exinct species has become two extant species.

Here is a Baha'i view on science & religion:

“There is no contradiction between true religion and science. When a religion is opposed to science it becomes mere superstition: that which is contrary to knowledge is ignorance. How can a man believe to be a fact that which science has proved to be impossible? The true principles of all religions are in conformity with the teachings of science.

Consider what it is that singles man out from among created beings, and makes of him a creature apart. Is it not his reasoning power, his intelligence? Shall he not make use of these in his study of religion? I say unto you: weigh carefully in the balance of reason and science everything that is presented to you as religion. If it passes this test, then accept it, for it is truth! If, however, it does not so conform, then reject it, for it is ignorance!

It is impossible for religion to be contrary to science, even though some intellects are too weak or too immature to understand truth. ..the strength and power of religion must not be doubted because of the incapacity of these persons to understand.

All religions teach that we must do good, that we must be generous, sincere, truthful, law-abiding, and faithful; all this is reasonable, and logically the only way in which humanity can progress.

God made religion and science to be the measure, as it were, of our understanding. Take heed that you neglect not such a wonderful power. Weigh all things in this balance. To him who has the power of comprehension religion is like an open book...

Put all your beliefs into harmony with science; there can be no opposition, for truth is one. When religion, shorn of its superstitions, traditions, and unintelligent dogmas, shows its conformity with science, then will there be a great unifying, cleansing force in the world which will sweep before it all wars, disagreements, discords and struggles -- and then will mankind be united in the power of the Love of God.”
(Abdu'l-Baha, Paris Talks, p. 141)

Dan,

"I ask who, if anyone, made the human race, as I understand that that is one of the central questions of ID."

I see no connection, since who I am has nothing to do with the human race. I just happen to temporarily wear a human.

"Were people, or other living things, created by a designer?"

Perhaps an interesting question for some, but I don't know the answer.

"Evidence that points to a grand designer is evidence for the existence of God."

Not necessarily, it could point for example to some alien monster conducting a sinister experiment.

"God’s existence is an important concept with regard to faith"

The concept of God's existence is detrimental to faith. It causes people instead to believe in, pray to, and bargain with, an object, an idol.

"The Psalms declares that ‘the fool states in his heart that there is no God.’"

Taken out of context. Within context, it would read: "the fool states in his heart that 'since there is no God I can do whatever I like without getting punished'".

"Believing in God’s existence is a minimum requirement for a Christian believer."

That's by definition, but you don't need to be a believer in order to be a good Christian. All you need is to love God and your fellow as thyself, just as Jesus loved you.

"We must also honour, love, and worship God."

So true.

"This is hard to do without first believing that he exists."

Granted, but neither is it easy to love your fellow as thyself, or to abstain from sin.

---
G.R., Thank you for this lovely and true exposition of Baha'i faith.

OH/DEAR...oliver is on the hiv...yet again
it must be the only study he has done...lol

but here we go/...again...hiv=virus...one of many virus
but hiv...is a type/genus of virus...that has species..within it

for species..to mutate...within their genus..is as nothing..
its basic genetics...within a genus..
there can be many/species..within the genus..its proof..of MICRO/evolution..within the genus...nothing more/nothing less

WHAT you need..to present...
is just one evolution...INTO A NEW GENUS/genious...get it

yet...pigions..all fall within..columbia[genus]...species liva...every domestic/pigeon..is species/liva...genus columbia

mating any two pigions..say a fantail/and a tumbler...produces the wild/type...'liva'...also called..[+]...the blue-barred/rock-dove...

as repeatedly stated...within the genus..no worries..
thats micro/evolution...

BUT..evolution...as you claim...as per..the tree of life...
THAT/needs evolution..BEYOND/species...level...

that...macro/evolution..is impossable

PLEASE PRESENT YOUR FAULSIFYABLES!
one that STATES..definitivly...that a NEW genus..is created

if you can name/even one...that shall be a first!
SCIENCE...has never..witnessed..a change of genus

to put it in simpler/terms...

the tree of life...has cold/blood..fish/..evolving into warm/blood..lol
...even you can see that is clearly..impossable...any science deluding/..at the impossable..isnt science

if you cant replicate
if you cant state...definitive/faulsification principles

then you dont got no science...!

learn to live with the fact..you got decieved/conned...its no shame..

the only shame..is continueing the delusion..in the face of clear refuting...of your hype-o-thesis..with valid science fact

READ THE LINK

further..re the baha/hi..comment

PLEASE?NOTE...<<..that which is contrary to knowledge..is ignorance.>>>

ie the delusion..that species evolving/WITHIN THEIR GENUS...means species...can evolve out of them..that is fraud/delusion

THAT IS PURE/DELUSION..to wit/ignorance..wrought of fear

<<How can a man believe to be a fact..that which science has proved to be impossible?>>>

clearly refusing to read the link...is evidense...of many..ignorant/
..steadfastly/chosing to remain/ignorant

...simply because..they are fixated
on the godless theory/masked as sci-trance

what you afraid of?

god is love
present ya faulsifyable's

Dear OUG,

A new genus:

http://ijs.sgmjournals.org/cgi/reprint/50/1/191.pdf

But that is not the point. The species (plural) within the genus are a product of evolution.