Vanna,

<<Roots and leaves are formed from cells. They don’t just happen.>>

Who said they did?

It’s time you started providing some peer-reviewed references here, my friend.

<<But here is an experiment to test the theory of evolution.>>

Oh dear. Here we go. I’m willing to bet this is simply going to be another display of ignorance towards science...

<<Form a cell membrane, and place inside various elements. Now supply energy and agitate, and wait for a required protein to form by chance.>>

Yep, I was right.

That has nothing to do with evolution.

Again, it’s time you started providing references rather than uneducated assertions of what you think evolution is.

<<Without proteins there will be no cell or organism to carry out your evolution...>>

Oh, it’s my evolution now?

Well..!

<<...and if the protein does not have the correct physical structure, then it is useless to an organism and may actually harm the organism.>>

You’ve got that right.

It’s just as well this has nothing to do with abiogenesis.

<<But there is a problem.>>

Uh oh!

<<If the cell membrane ruptures while waiting for a required protein to correctly form (and this could take many years without the right enzymes), then the contents of the cell will drift away and you no longer have a cell.>>

Wow!

It’s just as well cells weren’t so complicated in the early stages. Otherwise none of us would be around, and you’d actually have a point.

<<Is it a part of the theory of evolution to carry out abuse and insults of others?>>

Rather than trying to smear someone’s name (as creationists spend so much of their time doing to Darwin), how about you provide some peer-reviewed references for your assertions?

Thanks.

OH how desperate men have always been to avoid being accountable to their Creator. The apostle was right when he spoke of God handing men over to their own vain imaginations. The failure of evolutionist to come up with an ounce of logic demonstrates this beautifully. AS one professor of genetics says

'Biologist are simply naive when they talk about experiments designed to test the theory of evolution. It is not testable. They may happen to stumble across the facts which would seem to conflict with its predictions. These facts will invariably be ignored and their discoveries will undoubtedly be deprived of continuing research grants.'

vanna,

To have some rational information for some ration debate, Go back and open the link on the first post on this blog(1), or the links provided on these dates, at these times

Friday, 14 May 2010 12:25:47 PM (2)
Sunday, 16 May 2010 10:30:51 AM (3)

and then provide some comment about the contents therein.

(1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_evolution

(2) http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belief/2010/may/03/religion-atheism

... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitzmiller_v._Dover_Area_School_District

(3) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregor_Mendel

... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mendelian_inheritance

... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mendelian_traits_in_humans

runner, Thursday, 20 May 2010 6:11:58 PM

runner - it is reasonable to expect the reference or link to the quote, to see in what context it was made, and by whom.

A J Phillips,
“It’s just as well cells weren’t so complicated in the early stages”

So cells in the past didn’t form proteins? So how did cells grow, and more importantly, why did they grow?

Oh never mind.

If you want references, look in any of the main biology books (EG Biology by Campbell)

HOWEVER, they tend to leave out a lot, and tend to state that evolution occurs over time and through chance.

That’s the big excuse to not delve any further. No one would want too many getting worried or all upset about something they can’t actually see or measure.

You have not answered the last question I asked. I think this is because you actually get a warm and fuzzy feeling carrying out insults and abuse of others. But you should be very careful giving insults and abuse directly to someone. I have seen what can happen in such circumstances. Not pretty.

McReal,
I have no connection with organised religion. No one has to have religious connections to wonder about the theory of evolution.

I’ve noticed on OLO that people who give a lot of insults generally don’t answer too many questions. You too have not answered the last question I asked. You too should be very careful about giving insults or abuse directly to someone.

Regard that as good advice for your own self-preservation.

Oh come on, vannakins. You're writing scientific gibberish, and it's not abuse for anybody to point that out - particularly since you have a record (under various aliases) of posting endless asinine comments that purport to criticise education, and science education in particular.

However, you may be inadvertently proving your own point. If your scientific understanding is the product of an Australian education system, then there is clearly a problem.

Assuming you passed high school science, that is.