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Intelligent design: scientifically and religiously bankrupt : Comments

By Michael Zimmerman, published 14/5/2010

From both a scientific and a religious perspective, intelligent design is dead and buried.

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You cannot argue with faith-based reasoning.

In essence the difference is the evidence for evolution is greater. The evidence for ID is non-existent other than in a faith scenario.

In addition, while the premise may not change much, evolutionary theory is open to re-evaluation, change, tweaking in accordance with new findings.

Evidence for evolution is all around us including the body's adaptation to changing environments shown even by changes in the relevance of some organs and other body parts eg. wisdom teeth and the appendix.
Posted by pelican, Friday, 21 May 2010 9:30:40 AM
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Gene sequencing does not demonstrate that there are currently three forms of life, designated, bacteria, archaea and eucarya (multi-celled).

That is one classification scheme derived from gene sequencing. It was derived by the team led by Carl Woese of the University of Illinois. Lynn Margulis rejects that scheme as it doesn't recognise cell symbiosis (fusion of former bacteria). "Five Kingdoms" pages 3-16 contains a discussion of classification systems.

Multiticelled is not the same as eucarya. Eucarya have a defined nucleus and other morphological features that distinguish them from procarya. Eucarya may be multicelled or single celled as exemplified by amoebae and paramecia.
Posted by david f, Friday, 21 May 2010 9:34:02 AM
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Too funny. I should thank vannakins for posting that last piece of ignorant twaddle.

I'll remind him of it next time he starts babbling about science education.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Friday, 21 May 2010 9:34:29 AM
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Vanna wrote: "It is interesting that Darwin actually carried out ID, as well as countless other people throughout history."

How does one carry out ID?

Please cite a reference for anyone carrying out ID.
Posted by david f, Friday, 21 May 2010 9:43:35 AM
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Really davidf... what more evidence do you need?

God carried out ID, 6000 years ago.

Don't you read runner's posts?
Posted by The Blue Cross, Friday, 21 May 2010 9:50:50 AM
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David f,
To see ID in operation, look around you next time you go down to a pet shop.

Manipulating the traits of a species for a purpose is ID.

Gene splicing is also ID.

GE is ID.

Etc,etc

Perhaps the above is rather primative compared to what it could become in future years.

see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terraforming
Posted by vanna, Friday, 21 May 2010 10:46:37 AM
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