CJ Morgan, what a delight you are to work with. My post highlighted the fact that the “causes” are failed states and that the “symptoms” are massive refugee migrations. I made absolutely no reference to “how” Australia should deal with refugees.

What I did suggest is that perhaps we should apply our intellectual skills and policy to the causes rather than the effects; otherwise we will indeed be left with the perpetual frustrations of dealing with the symptoms at the emotional and ideological level.

I also mentioned the imposition of “guilt” and being tagged as “racist”. In spite of making absolutely no reference to how Australia should deal with refugees, you tag me as “xenophobic” invent a reference I did not make to wanting << to punish those victims further by denying them the asylum to which they're entitled under the UN Convention. >>

You then state that <<Nobody's asking you to feel "guilt">> but proceed to imply that I wish to “punish” refugees and that I lack “compassion and human decency”. Are these false accusations you have invented intended to make me feel “guilty” even though I have not even committed the sins to which you refer?

I created a number of “boxes” that define our Civil Rights and Humanitarian “industry”, you jumped into every single one of them. I don’t think you read the content of my post, I think you just did what you always do, feel the emotion.

“Refugee Advocacy”, like so many of the worlds “Appeasement Industries”, are part of the problem and not the solution. By encouraging our politicians to apply ideological feel good policies, we let them off the hook from their responsibilities to fix the problem and allow them to continue fiddling with vote catching yet meaningless ideologies.

Those wishing to “do something” are guilty of diverting political attention away from solutions. I also suspect that knowing this full well, the mantra of compassion is used to cover their own complicity in the additional misery caused by years of useless and ineffective policies.

What refugee advocacy seeks to avoid, it creates, misery

Always a pleasure to keep you honest, spindoc. Yes, you're right that you disingenuously avoided actually mentioning Australia's treatment of refugees, which is why it is my sacred duty as an (honorary) member of the "human rights industry" to draw attention to your dog-whistle.

While I'm impressed at your faith in Australia's ability to solve the international problems that are the root causes of people becoming refugees, I'm a little more circumspect. Personally, I'd rather that our politicians desisted from refugee-bashing and instead promoted compassion, decency and fulfilling our humanitarian obligations instead of finding devious excuses to avoid them.

Of course I support increasing our national efforts to ameliorate human suffering in other parts of the world, but that's absolutely no reason to try and avoid our legal and moral responsibilities to legitimate refugees who seek asylum in Australia right now.

CJM, I do wish you were able to deal with facts rather than just emotion. I pointed this out in my last post and you did it again, why?

I said “I made absolutely no reference to “how” Australia should deal with refugees.” You turned this into an admission by me that I’d been disingenuous by excluding my opinion. You said << Yes, you're right that you disingenuously avoided actually mentioning Australia's treatment of refugees, >> CJ, I said nothing of the sort. But it is what your emotions “thought” I said.

You ducked all the other points I raised with you, is that because you only see the emotion rather than the actual content?

You seem to adopt two strategies; one is to change the facts in order to facilitate your emotional responses, or two, that which you cannot or will not answer is labeled spin. I’m sure you have more than this to contribute and I’m convinced there is great intellect behind your real views so why deliberately distort them with emotive responses?

"You seem to adopt two strategies; one is to change the facts in order to facilitate your emotional responses, or two, that which you cannot or will not answer is labeled spin."

Oh the irony.

"“Refugee Advocacy”, like so many of the worlds “Appeasement Industries”, are part of the problem and not the solution."

Oh absolutely. It couldn't possibly be the fault of the people who commit crimes against civilians. So when the Sri Lankan Government pays thugs to beat up or kill Sinhalese journalists you can't blame them - blame the refugee advocates instead. When Sri Lankan soldiers rape Tamil girls and murder young Tamil boys they can't be blamed for that - no its the fault of that pesky human rights industry. Damn them and their concerns for rule of law, order, peace and security.

Better yet, lets look the other way. Lets deny the victims any hope of refuge. That'll teach those refugee advocates. It won't appease anybody. Well, it might appease the rapists and murderers who continue to act with impunity. Maybe we don't take war crimes and human rights seriously enough.

Now where is Captain Dragan again??

Religious Professors are the last people to I wish to listen to. When JESUS was alive, World Population was hardly 1 billion!
Throughout history, Countries evolved slowly. We Australians are not being allowed this stable evolution, with over-rapid migration from so many differing races, religions, ethics, moral ideas and physical environments.
WE are FULL. Let our present mix get used to each other. Stop Politicians and Business Interests screaming that we "MUST INCREASE OUR GDP",(GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCTION.) It is a failed PONZI scheme that continually increases WORLD OVERPOPULATION.
2 billion in 1950 now 7 billion, in another 60 years, 18 billion!
More than a third of species assessed in a major international biodiversity study are threatened with extinction, scientists have warned.
These included 21% of all known mammals, 30% of amphibians, 70% of plants and 35% of invertebrates.
At what point will society truly respond to this growing crisis?
Professor Jonathan Baillie,
Zoological Society of London.
This is caused entirely by the increase in Human Population!
50% of these were in AUSTRALIA.

STOP THIS WHIMPERING MUSH. In 1951 the world was trying to recover from WARS that killed over 60 million people and left at least 10 million homeless.
THAT IS NOT THE CASE NOW, therefore: The Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR; established December 14, 1950)
SRI-LANKA should be asked to take responsibility for TAMILS. As for IRAQIS, AFGHANIS and PAKISTANIS it is impossible for a country like Australia to solve their problems. AS for ‘little ALI’, there are women and children in our own AUSTRALIA living right now in worse conditions. ALL the RELIGIONS in the World have not been able to solve these situations.
AUSTRALIA IS JUST INVITING MORE TROUBLE swamping our nation with the World’s problems.