Yeah well - as one of OLO's more regular haters, Horus of course wouldn't let facts get in the way of the bigoted narrative he spends so much time fabricating.

Be afraid, Horus. Be very afraid. It suits you.

Susan M, when your comments are deconstructed most of your statements amount to little more than subtle denigration of those who have opinions differing from yours.

“Proxy, thanks for the answer. But don't you think that's all a bit paranoid? I find the battle for victim status politically interesting but strangely illogical.”

“I believe that there is a negative obsession with boat arrivals because, as you say, people feel powerless, but their reasons for feeling powerless are more personal, or result from natural change in the country and the world, and have nothing to do with refugees. The boat arrivals are just an easy visible target.”

“.. some of the comments on here are strange. There are many who seem willing to twist the facts on this issue for party political reasons and that to me is the worst of it.”

“And everyone has an opinion, even if they don't understand the complexities and detail of the issue people feel justified in making statements that are not factual.”

“I just wish some of the strong energy that some people have that is used with such negativity could be channeled into creating positive things for this country.”

“It is actually very hard to find people who have a balanced well thought through position against asylum seekers that doesn't have at its base either politics or feelings of powerlessness about other issues, and obviously there is hatred and prejudice against outsiders that is evident in every country.”

To Susan M those with differing opinions seem to be “paranoid”, “looking for victim status”, “feel powerless, ” twist the facts”, “do not understand the complexities and detail of the issue”, “make statements that are not factual”, “do not have balances well thought through positions, and have “hatred and prejudice against outsiders”.

Just stop and think for a minute Susan M. Are you so sure that almost none of those who oppose asylum seekers arriving via people smugglers are not as sincere as you in their beliefs. And are you so sure that they cannot offer logical and reasoned arguments in support of their positions.

franklin's post is just a little rich, coming from someone whose only previous contribution to the discussion has been a verbatim re-posting of a mendacious comment s/he made in another thread entirely.

<< are you so sure that they cannot offer logical and reasoned arguments in support of their positions. >>

Perhaps franklin can offer a "logical and reasoned argument" in support of his position, but it would be greatly enhanced if it wasn't based on lies and distortions.

Franklin, so why is it that you spend so much of your life on forums writing about people you feel antagonistically towards? These are people who don't have any platform to reply to your claims against them.

The answers that were provided above, on your behalf, about the need to police the juggernauts dragging the country down and warnings about Muslims, do seem more than a bit paranoid to me (I'm not being subtle). And claims that more than 20,000 people are waiting in Indonesia to come here, for example, are just untrue. Latest figures are at about 4,000 in Indonesia. Are these also your views?

You again make clear that you want to claim the victim role but if you can move past that I would be interested to know why you feel the need to give so much of your life to this. At least the others who have posted on here seem to be unapologetically honest about where they are coming from on this. You obviously don't have to answer if this is a private issue.

Susan M,
go to -
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/TheList.htm
click on "This list" and spend some time reading it.
Scroll down and see if you can see a pattern in the lists going back nearly 10 years.
Now imagine those lists going back 1400 years.
If you can then brush this off with "warnings about Muslims do seem more than a bit paranoid to me (I'm not being subtle)"
and not recognise that, maybe, just maybe, we have a special problem here that deserves further investigation,
then there can be no possibility of reasoned discussion.

Poxy you are more of a threat to Australia than any Muslim person. There are so many fine and upstanding Muslim Australians. And then theres you .... yuck