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Facebook’s new slut page: a monument to girl hatred : Comments

By Melinda Tankard Reist, published 11/3/2010

Since when did it become OK to hate women and girls so publicly and to judge them so mercilessly?

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it is not surprising that people silly enough to believe we are just animals lower themselves to this level.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 11 March 2010 10:25:59 PM
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Orange donkey:"If society at large is no more negatively impacted by the label 'slut' as it is by the label 'vegetarian' (for eg.) then how is a woman disadvantaged by the claim?"

Excellent question. The use of the pejorative "slut" is mostly used by females about females. My 13 year old daughter knows just who the sluts are at her school, and she was mortified to be called a slut by one of her peers for committing the social gaffe of sitting next to a boy on a bus trip during a school excursion when she had other seats available.

The implication of sluttiness is that the girl/woman is devaluing herself and by implication, other females. For young women, their principal stock-in-trade is their capacity to pick and choose, sometimes quite brutally cutting down a male trier, for no real reason other than to assert their power.

The key is solidarity among the women, since if some women put it about realtively freely, some young men are going to be less willing to put up with a more restricted diet, thus limiting the power of the pussy for those who want to use it that way.

If a boy calls a girl a slut, it is often as a response to a perceived slight, or a rejection. Boys do not regard sluts as a bad thing, but they know that girls do, so they press the button, hoping that the label will stick and the other girls will make her life miserable.

MTR is just responding as generations of girls have responded to the idea of being regarded as insufficiently sexually exclusive. Whether she is a Wowser (which, of course she is) or a Feminist (which is how she would like to be thought of, I suspect) is irrelevant in this case.

One question arises though: if MTR is bothered by this silly Facebook page, is she equally as offended at the Government ads which show young men as irresponsible drivers with small penises? If not, why?
Posted by Antiseptic, Friday, 12 March 2010 6:12:34 AM
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Antiseptic

"For young women, their principal stock-in-trade is their capacity to pick and choose, sometimes quite brutally cutting down a male trier, for no real reason other than to assert their power."

I understand your point and it raises an interesting issue of perception. Many young women have a very presise idea of which sort of boy they like. By only having sex with boys who meet all of these criteria, they avoid looking like sluts to their peers. They also maintain the power that you discussed.

However, they look like sluts to boys. We view women who have sex outside long term relationships as sluts. Ultimately, only women who enter relationships with boys who really love them have long term relationships. These women cannot afford to have a huge wish list, because only a limited group of men actually like them that much.
Posted by benk, Friday, 12 March 2010 7:47:22 AM
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Hazza,

'that one would actually have to deliberately seek to view the content of.'

Oh don't worry, MTR is on the case!

'Would you think that even half of the people writing these messages were even being remotely serious?'

Of course! We've been waiting for the misogynists to slip up like this. Now we've caught them red handed!

'Suppose instead of a remote corner of facebook'

That is until the likes of MTR publicise them. Then they get much more hits. She's a dirty misogynist at heart perhaps.

pelican,

The title, 'Since when did it become OK to hate women and girls so publicly and to judge them so mercilessly?'

is pretty gender specific. I think you read a different article.

Now, is it that it was previously not ok to do so, or previously not so 'public' (see Hazza), or should it be ok for boys but girls need protecting, or does it just not happen to boys?

I have argued that it's a broader issue, that people are up for judgement in many aspects of life, and it isn't a phenomena directed specifically at women, no-matter how big a chip MTR has on her shoulder.

And really, why not judge people publicly? As I've pointed out it happens in every walk of life every day, even by the moral crusaders, actually especially by the moral crusaders.

MTR says it's 'a monument to girl hatred '
Even if so, hatred of mostly girls of other girls.

anti,

'for no real reason other than to assert their power. '

Or it could be she just doesn't fancy him, and figures that by their behaviour most boys aren't so sensitive.

'The key is solidarity among the women, since if some women put it about relatively freely, some young men are going to be less willing to put up with a more restricted diet, thus limiting the power of the pussy for those who want to use it that way.'

Or maybe they don't want their boyfriend saying 'that Lara Bingle gives BJs so why don't you'.
Posted by Houellebecq, Friday, 12 March 2010 8:13:47 AM
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anti,

'power of the pussy'
I prefer to call it 'The Bermuda Triangle'. Something Michael Clarke knows a lot about. As they said in Rocky, 'Women weaken Legs'!

'Boys do not regard sluts as a bad thing, but they know that girls do, so they press the button'
Haha. Too true.

'hoping that the label will stick and the other girls will make her life miserable.'

Passive aggressive manipulators are they? I thought only women 'played games' like that?

'Government ads which show young men as irresponsible drivers with small penises?'

I don't think they show that. The message I always take away from those adverts is that the government considers it more shameful to have a small penis than endanger the lives of others by reckless driving. It's a call from the government for young boys to buy those internet penis-extender contraptions advertised in SPAM emails.
Posted by Houellebecq, Friday, 12 March 2010 8:21:21 AM
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Benk:"Ultimately, only women who enter relationships with boys who really love them have long term relationships"

If only...
I don't know what the most predictive factors are, but I don't think love has much to do with it. Mutuality of interest and tolerance are probably pretty important.

Houellebecq:"it could be she just doesn't fancy him,"

No, it's always about power and control. Haven't you been paying attention?

Houellebecq:"Lara Bingle gives BJs"

But she's not a slut - they were engaged at the time and Fev was even married. Besides, she has a great pair of assets. It seems Clarke has managed to find his way out of that particular Bermuda Triangle anyway, although I'm sure he isn't unscathed, at least financially. I wonder who gets the Aston?

Houellebecq:"I thought only women 'played games' like that?"

Where'd you get that idea? Women are just better at it.
Posted by Antiseptic, Friday, 12 March 2010 8:51:14 AM
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