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Land of opportunity, but not for monoculturalists : Comments

By Rachel Woodlock, published 17/2/2010

While young Muslim Australians can positively appreciate Australia as a land of opportunity, Ms Pauline Hanson cannot.

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NGARMADA-comparably, humanity is observed a paradigm shift from the definition you describe.

How so? They may have gradually discovered modern inventions and tools but they themselves haven't changed that much since the first modern human appear ed. It doesn't seem like anything has changed much to me. Look at the violence and killing in the last 50 or 60years.

. The Japanese slaughter of 15millions Chinese and the rape of Manchuria in the years leading up to WW2
(oh I forgot you told me the Colonialists made them do it)
. WW2 The German slaughter of the Jews
. The Somalian conflict
. The Rwandan slaughter
. The Bosnian massacre
. The 30year terrorist war by the IRA for control of Ireland
. The attempt by Indonesian Militias to take Timor
. The 20year Tamil conflict in Sri Lankia
. the Chechnya conflict in Russia
. The Arabs and the Israelies
. China and Tibet or is it Burma(can't quite remember)
. The attack on the Chinese population in the Solomons
. The Twin Towers
. The Bali Bombing
. Iraq War
. Bombings in London
. The Taliban from Pakistan controlling Afghanistan
. America in Afghanistan
. Sudan
. Fiji
. The congo
Have I missed any? It doesn't look much like we've evolved to me.

You wouldn't acknowledge the truth of any thing that didn't blame the colonialists for all of mankinds problems.
Blame the colonialists is like a religion to you. If the truth jumped up and bit you on the bum you'd probably think the colonialists did it.
It's the human condition and the fact that we are still the same as we were thousands of years ago. You won't solve the problems of mankind unless you first acknowledge the truth of what you are dealing with. The human animal is the same the world over. Your hatred of the colonialists is quite rabid in some of your posts proving you are just as racist against them as you accuse them of beng against you.
Posted by CHERFUL, Monday, 15 March 2010 3:35:30 AM
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""If civil war ever breaks out in America between the Africans and the Whites, the Whites can just shout out "don't kill me I'm Proto-Australoid/Causcasoid""
They'd say what the f---k are you talking about white boy"
And if war breaks out between the Africans and the Whites, the Whites can just shout out "don't kill me I'm Negroid/Causcasoid."
They'd say "what the f---k are you talking about Barack Obama?"
Posted by blairbar, Monday, 15 March 2010 5:54:57 AM
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Wow very many comments so hope I am not repeating

the key word is young. Australia is ok for 20 somethings but there is no opportunity when you are over 45, or very little. Pauline is correct in what she says for her age.We only see 20 somethings as useful or to be honest brainwashable.

Migration allows us to continue to fill the pool of younger workers. Less immigration would require employers treat the workers we have better and lose the luxury of prejudiced employment practise that is rampant at the moment. We would increase productivity through more efficient exploitation of the people we already have. I agree the lost opportunity though not sure it can be found anywhere these days. Like the army, get them young and brainwash them is corporate compliance and please nobody actualy think. This is todays opportunity.

Not sure what muslims ahve to do with it, sounds a bit self indulgent to introduce a hobby horse into the scheme of things.
Posted by TheMissus, Monday, 15 March 2010 7:42:36 AM
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Indeed, blairbar - I am destroyed, and mightily so. As far as I can glean from Ngarmada's pompous prattling, s/he thinks that 'white' people are proscribed from speaking out against racism because we are descended from colonial oppressors.

I suspect that pointing out that Ngarmada's attitude is in itself racist would go over his/her head.

Hi CHERFUL - while the social category of 'race' is indeed commonsense, so is the idea that the sun revolves around the earth. Fortunately, science has exposed the fallacy of both ideas, but racism lingers among the ignorant and bigoted. Racists are the social 'flat earthers' of our time.

You are, however, quite correct to assert that humans are essentially the same the world over. I think you are also spot on when you say to Ngarmada

<< Your hatred of the colonialists is quite rabid in some of your posts proving you are just as racist against them as you accuse them of beng against you. >>

What you need to do now is to read somewhat more widely than Wikipedia, in order to apply your naive insights to your own ideas. You really are in no position to make broad and sweeping statements about human history, because you apparently know so little about it - and this is compounded by your defence of your ignorance.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Monday, 15 March 2010 8:21:02 AM
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Cherful,
Its good to see your involvement in this debate is generating your observation of historical fact. Now its just your aberrant interpretation of those facts you need to deal with. For all the conflicts you identify may be sourced to the origin of colonial and imperial insurgency.

Yes it may be suggested human evolution is apparent as not evolving much past its predation of itself, but to project responsibility for such conduct as attributed predominantly to primal instinct pertaining to our human condition, is as downright dishonest as the contention of weapons of mass destruction, and the lie of children overboard.

Continue
Posted by Ngarmada, Monday, 15 March 2010 8:43:36 AM
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Identical to the intent of those lies, the historical record of the incursions of colonial imperialism may be observed in common as driven by indifference and intolerance to others. Even greed and covetousness observed in such incursions may be attributed to this source.

For the leaders who implemented these instruments of such destruction, were fully aware of the potential, and their own intent. It is classic observation of the failure of leadership and management, and will continue to proliferate while those with banal, and worse, malevolent attitudes, continue to be observed as the status quo tolerating and supporting such leadership. It is a blueprint for more of the same. It is the incubator from where such dysfunctional leadership is born.

Empirical dominions responsible for such destruction, from the dawn of observed civilisation, are observed not only confined to those of european origin, for there were the Moors, the Ottomans, the Mongols, the Hittites, the Assyrians, to name but a few.

The Mongol empire was the largest the world has ever seen, however you learn little of that phenomenon in western education, for as the posters demonstrate on this thread, the west is myopically obsessed with itself, the flaw and failure observed of every empire that has descended into decline.

That the civilisations and cultures of those former empires either remain or have transcended into others, realises the majority of people are open to reason
Posted by Ngarmada, Monday, 15 March 2010 8:44:59 AM
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