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Land of opportunity, but not for monoculturalists : Comments

By Rachel Woodlock, published 17/2/2010

While young Muslim Australians can positively appreciate Australia as a land of opportunity, Ms Pauline Hanson cannot.

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David also said..

"At least I got into uni the first time around ;-)
Posted by David Jennings, Friday, 12 March 2010 "

So get used to it, because that's where you will be for the rest of your LIFE.
Posted by ozzie, Friday, 12 March 2010 6:23:21 PM
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Just because you have been to UNI doesn't make you better than anybody else. Most Academics I know are great in their field but outside that, another story. I have known a few academics in my time & most of them couldn't tie their shoelaces. They knew nothing of the world outside their field & what they do know is all screwed up because they look at the problem in a narrow sense. No big picture.

examples of a few I know personally. A Uni professor who went to school, then went to school to be a teacher, then went to UNI again for more Qualifications & so on & on. Her only life was on Campus. She thinks real life is just like it is in Acadamia. A Social worker who had a bad marriage, went to TAFE to do "Get Well" courses then went to Uni to get a Social workers Degree. She went to work in a Womans shelter. ALL men are bastard, because that's all she knows & the text books say so. A famous Forensic Scientist who would come to work with his trousers on insideout & hadn't noticed or came to work with a sneeker on one foot & a thong on the other & wondered why he was limping. His VW, well that's another story. Brilliant person. He never knew what day it was. An Ecological scientist who would spend months doing research & never signing off on anything. I had to start his mower every time he mowed the lawn. He couldn't drive a nail into wood. He was always thinking that the world was coming to an end. If his wife wasn't home he couldn't even make a sandwich.

That's fairly much the same with these bleeding heart, politicaly correct people, everybodys a racist except them. They only know what they have been taught in Acadamia land, which bears no resemblence to real life. These fanatics see racism in everyone. What sad people these people are.

WE ARN'T ALL RACISTS. WE JUST HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION TO YOU. GET REAL.
Posted by Jayb, Friday, 12 March 2010 7:51:44 PM
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NGARMADA <the killing in the Balkans is identified as genocide . We are differentiated from the rest of the animal kingdom by our ability to comprehend our actions and intent.>

Don't sell the animals short, they know exactly what their intent is when they are defending territory or killing to eat. If they didn't know what their intent was how do you explain the way they stalk prey.

Humans gloss it over with big sounding words like genocide or defend it by calling it a holy war or a war against the devil such as the infidel or the heretics.
They cannot face the fact that they like the animals are driven by two big survival instincts, the sexual mating instinct and the territorial instinct.
I know that you are going to say that we can control these instincts. A true test of our real ability to control these instincts would be if a law was passed saying that nobody was allowed to have sex for a year. Some people especially some women would have no trouble complying with this at all, some people could comply most of the time, some could only comply about half of the time, and a big percentage of people would find it hard to comply at all.

Why would it be so hard for people to use their intellect as you say to over-ride their need for sex, because it is a basic biological survival instinct, and it cannot be over-ridden by all of the people all of the time on any permanent basis. It is thus obvious
that we are driven by our biolgoical instincts and our intellect is a tool we use to gain that which we instinctively desire.

The other big survival instinct is the territorial instinct. Mankind has been engaging in this across much of recorded history.
What is genocide but the wiping out of the other race (tribe)off the territory
Posted by CHERFUL, Friday, 12 March 2010 8:16:55 PM
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LUCY MONTGOMERY perhaps we are being a bit loose in the use of the word tribal. The Serbs lived in villages and had an organised society they weren't hunter-gatherers>

I have had this discussion with academics before. I think academics feel a bit superior to the word tribe. They are in fact showing their supremacist thinking. As though: I can't be part of a tribe because that would mean that I must be primitive or black or a hunter gatherer or inferior or something. I have said before that I prefer the word tribe, because I think humans are still tribal. A tribe to me is a group that has basically intermarried with each other over the last few generations and beyond. The old saying that blood is thicker than water, proves itself to be true over and over again when the chips are down and survival is an issue and is even obvious in every day life the way families and extended families and tribes support each other.

I am not that interested in wading through a lot of historical details, I prefer the big picture and you still haven't proven to me yet that I am wrong in my assessment of the big picture. That all wars and conflict can be found to have genocide and the taking of land or territorial resources as their primary motive despite what political or religious reasons may have been stated publicly.

I read enough of history and books in my earlier years to see the big picture, I am not very interested in stuffing tomatoes these days unless it is really necessary to the point I am making.
Posted by CHERFUL, Friday, 12 March 2010 9:41:25 PM
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LUCY MONTGOMERY

I did read in Wikipedia a couple of nights ago that the Habsburgs did allow the German Aristocrats to rule in some villages. I assume they still had to defer to the Habsburgs but they were allowed to keep their ruling class status over the lower classes in some villages.
Posted by CHERFUL, Friday, 12 March 2010 10:10:17 PM
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Cherful, anybody can write anything in Wikipedia. Even teenagers can write entries in the Wikipedia. It is not a reputable or authoritative source of information. You might as well be quoting graffiti.

I'm not an academic. I just have the history channel on Foxtel!

Supremacist thinking is when you feel you are inherently superior to other people because of their race, religion, nationality etc. Ask Ozzie. I don't feel that I'm 'inherently' better than you. I just know the facts on some of the points you raised.

You have a very loose definition of tribe. I doubt its one that can be found in a dictionary.

Ditto with the expansive definition of the reasons for war. Though you were again careless with language; Genocide "and" the taking of land? The Germans were not trying to genocide the French in WW1.

Really what you're saying is that you dont want to back up your statements with any proof. You just want to make sweeping statements. Whatever.
Posted by Lucy Montgomery, Friday, 12 March 2010 10:20:39 PM
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