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Are jobs harder to get?

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Hi Matthew S

Thanks for your insight & knowledge. I'ts a scary thought the way thing are going but having said that our economy & job prospects is still doing a lot better than Europe, Greece in particular; Hope things work out for them in the coming years.
Posted by FENZINK, Wednesday, 9 July 2014 5:57:27 AM
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Dear Mattthew,

<<Yuyutsu – I am very disappointed to find even you making remarks like this here and elsewhere. Surely you would not have the government and all citizens take welfare away from...>>

What have I wrote that you are referring to?

All I said is that EVERYONE should get the dole's equivalent (unconditionally) - nothing about taking it away from anyone.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 9 July 2014 8:23:45 PM
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Matthew,

Many people are caught between the jaws of a nutcracker. One jaw is the offshoring described by you, facilitated by free trade, and the other is the flooding of the labour market due to government immigration policy. Unlike the nutcracker example, however, we can't just take away one jaw.

If we stop the offshoring and free trade, but do nothing about mass migration, then the factories will come back, but those jobs will largely be taken by 457 visa holders, who will put up with low wages and bad and/or dangerous working conditions because they want sponsorship for permanent residence. 457 visa holders will also be attractive to employers because they have already been trained at someone else's expense. On the other hand, if we only force the politicians to rein in temporary immigration and cut permanent immigration back to zero net (~70,000 a year), then jobseekers will be better off because of the opening up of the jobs that can't be offshored, but there probably still won't be enough jobs for all of them.

The American people shut down the first era of globalisation after World War One, but it took violence. See

http://aeon.co/magazine/living-together/peter-turchin-wealth-poverty/

Unlike the US, however, Australia has a preferential voting system, so it might be possible to put pressure on our elites by putting their candidates from the major political parties last and second last on the ballot paper, although there is always the possibility that they will simply change the rules, as has been proposed to eliminate the minor party senators.
Posted by Divergence, Thursday, 10 July 2014 10:20:01 AM
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Divergence and others –

Talk about the almighty global market and political forces which make us and all else impotent in their wake . . . . . is mere rubbish for the honest and mere subterfuge for the global business rich who wish things to be as such.

Quite simply and plainly, I would ask our armed forces and the same of all “decent” nations to take charge of things and simply disallow all money people and groups from engaging in any activity that can serve to undermine our society, our wealth and our workers [like did already occur when Asia got ALL our low jobs as a sinister “gift” from white and podgy necked fools] and most of all the human dignity and moral fortitude of our cultures which spawned from Enlightenment Europe.

That is, our armed forces which is designed to protect the interests of our peoples, should be ONCE and FIRST of ALL time put to serve the WHOLE people rather than just the elite, and point the guns to the heads of the leaders who wish to give their businesses to slave markets in third world . . . . . and make them cop slight reduced profits in order to keep jobs in this market for their own poor and worker class . . . . not to mention to keep some semblance of moral uprightness.
Posted by Matthew S, Monday, 14 July 2014 5:41:40 PM
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Yuyutsu,

I quote you : “millions who are playing cat-and-mouse with Centrelink, who must issue endless job-applications but never had any intention to work”.

WHY?
Posted by Matthew S, Monday, 14 July 2014 7:04:42 PM
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Simple matt there is no jobs
Posted by Aussieboy, Monday, 14 July 2014 9:38:29 PM
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