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How does God exist? : Comments

By Peter Sellick, published 9/11/2006

We are privy to God’s address to us but not to God Himself.

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Part 2

In my primary school days, I built a crystal set and heard a radio transmission through
earphones used in World War II. What a thrill ran down my spine! Nowadays, while the Hubble
optical telescope is revealing yet greater wonders, it is the radio telescope that is reaching ever
further into the unknown.

Just as a micro-electrical charge races through our brain and computers, so a macro-electrical charge, plasmas from outer space feed storm clouds and the sun.

Hannes Alfven, Max Planck, Michael Faraday, Guglielmo Marconi, Anthony Peratt are just a few of the pioneers who have opened up the vista of an electrical universe.

Have you seen a human being die? All the physical elements are still there. Like a torchlight, death
can only be pronounced when no micro-electrical charge can be discerned in the brain. What is
Henri Bergson's elan vital?

It is very difficult to give mind (and “mindsets”) a physical existence. Yet, can you tell me, Keiran,
mind does not exist?

Cheers
shmuel

P.S. I must apologize for a faulty URL in a previous post due to my typo error. Rather, try
www.kronia.com. Thoth Newsletter will keep anybody out of mischief for more than an hour or
two. Try also , the Society for Interdisciplinary Studies at www.knowledge.co.uk/sis/ .
Posted by shmuel, Wednesday, 10 January 2007 3:16:18 PM
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I think what sell was saying was that if a person can't speak the language than he shouldnt attempt to speak it. whether this is elitist or not is irrelevant, its logical. and what is the purpose of
discussion if it will only be perceived through our own semipermeable preconceived notions. what are we trying to convince ourselves of?
Posted by vnx, Tuesday, 23 January 2007 6:41:40 AM
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How,does anyone know?
Posted by KAROOSON, Monday, 12 February 2007 3:05:21 PM
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How does anyone know?

Try trusting Jesus that he is God, and that he should lead you. He will send you the Holy Spirit of God who will knock your socks off with revelations of knowledge straight from him.

When you do that, you will then know what you didn't know now.

But, again, that requires a little trust that God is who he says he is.

No trust, no closeness. No trust, no communication, no information, no knowledge about what is, what is to be, who you are, and why.

It's a bit SCI FI, though not FICTION at all, but reality. The most amazing guided trip you will ever take.

King Solomon asked God for wisdom, when he was a teenage boy crowned king. He got it. He was the wisest man that ever existed, and ever will. He wrote Ecclesiastes about what men can know "under the sun," that is, without acknowledging the existence of God. Not much.

The Spirit of God lifts you up, provides rest for your soul, peace instead of fear, all based on knowledge. But again, that takes faith that God is who he says he is. Creator ab initio, creator of everything from nothing. Man creates from that which God has already created. God creates and created from nothing, to something.

Although we have the word "nothing" we can't conceive of what nothing really is, as we are working from something (our brains, already existent)....
Posted by Hawaiilawyer, Tuesday, 20 February 2007 3:52:43 PM
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"The scientific mind has become exclusively naturalistic; the rainbow is seen as Newton saw it, the refraction of the components of white light. So when we see a rainbow we think of physical mechanism and not the covenant with Noah. This is a disenchanted world...
The increasing detail of scientific knowledge fails to ignite the spirit, tell us who we are or trace a hopeful trajectory. The disenchantment of the world has led to the disenchantment of life." - Peter Sellick [Sells]

The problem of the Natural World versus the [alleged] Supernatural world was evident when Vatican astonomers refused to look the Gallileo's telescope. To see the moons of Jupiter and the phases of Venus is problematic for the [then] Christian, because everything beyond Earth's atmosphere was supernatural and we ancestors lived on
God's created [antropomorphic] world. Astronomy has since pushed the temporal from our little planet/speck to the enormity of the Universe. That is wonderous.

The Noah myth is built on the Epic of Gilamesh. In earlier religions, Gilgamesh [distruction] was the complement to the The Epic of Creation, in epic poems. Christian OT mythology is more in linear Genesis, begetting, and, The Flood. Similarly, Shamesh [God of Wisdom] provided Laws hundreds of years, befor Yahweh [volcano god from the El Council.]

Light with its physical properties is the basis of many sciences and our undrestanding of light allows moderity in technology. Again, amazing and beneficial.

Newton problably believed in the covenant. That is, while your metaphor is colourful (ahem. :-) ), it likely wrong, in reality. Newton also tended to anthropomophise matter, objects fell [literally]enthusiastically to meet the Earth. Great scientiest though, including calculus, which allowed us to abstract in new ways.
Posted by Oliver, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 3:02:16 PM
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Our trajectory is known, we live-we die, our atoms are reassigned. In five billion years the Sun will nova. Alternatively, seventy million years ago, the New World Monkey line [our line] was formed from earlier primates, arount five million years, our genes gave cognive advantage over chimps. Albeit, Chimps are stronger and more agile, hence, display different superiorities. Is science great? If we didn't Jesus at least we would have had Mithras, but imagine a world without Darwin! No that would be a loss.
Posted by Oliver, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 3:05:24 PM
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