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Religious freedom will be suffocated if ALP elected : Comments

By Pat Byrne, published 17/5/2019

In 2013, the federal Labor government fundamentally changed the Act to make gender identity and sexual orientation protected attributes.

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Australians are now so disinterested in the freedoms previous generations loved and fought for that Labor - or any group of politicians - can do as they please. And they will.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 17 May 2019 9:51:35 AM
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Unfortunately, What the author calls religious freedom and the right to discriminate against those who are not of binary sex are in conflict. Religious freedom as far as I am concerned is the right to believe anything about religion that you choose to believe. It is not the right to discriminate.

The author wrote: These state policies conflict with the belief of most people that humans are either male or female, and that a person cannot biologically change their sex. The policies will certainly conflict with many faith-based schools who for moral and safety reasons will oppose allowing boys who identify as girls into private female spaces.

Laws should not be made to conform with belief but to reality. The reality is that humans are not either male or female but exist on a gradient. The fact is that many people find themselves in a body of one sex but with instincts of the other sex. Therefore surgical changes can be made so that the personís physical sex conforms to the personís mental sex. Boys who identify as girls become girls, and girls who identify as boys become boys. Where belief denies reality, reality should take precedence.

The change that the Greens and Labor would make to the law would make the law conform to reality. That should prevail over religious belief that does not conform to reality.
Posted by david f, Friday, 17 May 2019 10:02:50 AM
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Emphatically disagree with this author's patently partisan views. If however, he is genuine in his concerns!?

Why then has the conservative side of politics (Sergeant's Schultz syndrome) rigidly opposed, with die in a ditch first, resolve.

Rights, one of which would undoubtedly protect the right to worship! The other the right to decline service on religious or alleged moral grounds.

But not the age-old right to discriminate or persecute! Which seems to be what the, I believe, obsfuscating obstructionist recalcitrant wants!?
Alan B
Posted by Alan B., Friday, 17 May 2019 10:14:03 AM
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reprobate minds setting policy and displaying bigotry to Christians.
Posted by runner, Friday, 17 May 2019 10:36:49 AM
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How can anyone expect religious or any other freedom while accepting tax-payer money through a secular state? It is only common-sense that money and indoctrination come hand-in-hand.

The right thing to do if one is to have children, is to never register one's educational facilities as "school", but instead register the children as "home-schoolers", then one should be able to teach their children whatever they want, have them sit only alongside approved friends, employ whoever they want to teach their children and implement whatever toilet/change-room policies they like.

Otherwise, stop making such a big issue about gender, in fact it is best to ignore this silly issue of gender altogether - there is so much more to religion!
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 17 May 2019 11:16:05 AM
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What utter & complete RUBBISH
Posted by John Ryan, Friday, 17 May 2019 12:18:17 PM
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